I would love to see some architectural examples for your upcoming presentation. Do you know of any books available for CFMX that focus on CFCs?
-----Original Message----- From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Test I think CFC's are a bit of paradigm shift for CF developers. CFC are really designed for three-tier development. I'd put logic in your CFC's, which then return data back to CFM pages, which perform the output. Most CF developers are used to 2 tier, mixing your logic and your display. Probably a classic example would be a shopping cart. You return recordsets that you use to output your catalog; you'd have methods for adding, deleting, etc, products from the cart. All of this happens independent of the display. (I'm going to be doing part 2 of my CFC/Web Services presentation, covering advanced cfc usage. Perhaps it would be make architectural examples a focus?) --- Billy Cravens Web and Software Consulting www.Architechx.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Schreck, Tom Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 4:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Test I've only played around with CFMX. Mostly testing out the XML capability. CFMX makes working with XML a lot easier than before, however, I have not seen, stumbled across, or found any way to interact with node elements' properties and methods like you can working with MSXML DOM. This is a critical aspect of working with any XML document in my opinion. CFMX makes creating and spitting out content from an XML doc a breeze. Does anyone know how to access a node's parent node via the parentNode property for instance? Does anyone know if DWMX will be modified to meet the user's expectations? In other words, is Macromedia listening to the disgruntled development community? I have not talked with one developer yet that likes DWMX. Does CFC live up to the hype? I've heard/read that CFCs should not return display data. But beyond the authentication aspect for a user, I'm only seeing scenarios where I want to use CFCs to return content for display purposes. What are the best practices for using CFCs in your development? Thanks Tom -----Original Message----- From: Ferguson, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 4:36 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Test DITTO, DITTO, DITTO!!! What a useless piece of software. There is a reason that I have never chosen to use DW up to this point, (the same reason I don't use Front Page.) All of the things that make Studio a cool little IDE are gone or at least changed negatively in DWMX. Studio is a text editor that allows quick access to files, tags and functions and very easy-to-use keyboard shortcuts... DWMX is a crappy WYSIWYG editor that claims to support CF, but from which the above features have been removed (or have at least been greatly diluted.) I'd also like to add that I'm none too impressed with CFMX as an application server so far either. All of my apps using COM are completely dead except for one, which is VERY, VERY slow now. I'm moving the bulk of my organizations apps over which I have power to .NET because I think MX is that big of a step backwards. I think we all saw this coming when MM bought Allaire. I've done my last three projects with CF and ASP.NET in parallel (with C#) and all three run more efficiently and more smoothly in .NET. -----Original Message----- From: Schreck, Tom To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7/16/02 9:54 AM Subject: RE: Test I too am dismayed at how crappy Dreamweaver MX is. How can they take away all the shortcuts? Does anyone know if Studio 5 can be extended to work with CFC and CFXML? Are there any other features of CFMX that you would need to extend CF Studio with? Tom -----Original Message----- From: David Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 9:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Test Finding hacked and cracked versions of all my favorite software. Furthermore, I find it hard to believe that Dreamweaver MX is going to be better for me than CF Studio 5. The other day I got a dialog box in DWMX that said "Cancelling..." with a progress bar and a button that said "Cancel." I could not cancel the cancel. I've gotta run -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Doyle Calvert Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 9:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Test I'm mostly a Flash and Director guy and have been for a long time. I attended that MX Studio seminar recently and was very impressed by the apparent power and ease of use of StudioMX. I attended a DFWCFUG meeting and found it, (and this list), to be filled with very knowledgeable and unusually helpful people. So I'd like to ask what, specifically, is giving everyone the biggest challenges with moving to StudioMX? And is it an interface and integration issue from previous versions of the individual software apps? Or is the whole MX thing still a bit buggy? Or is it something else? Doyle Calvert DigitalDoyle 817.232.4921 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the new site! www.digitaldoyle.com -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Barber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Test I reckon people got their noses in them tech books on how in the &#$*% to develop in this new MX suite. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Cahall Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Test Yep, it sure is. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jeff Mayfield Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Sure is quiet out there. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - This email server is running an evaluation copy of the MailShield anti- spam software. 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