On 3/8/06, Dr. Core <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think it's just because Four is so 2-D; she's simplye nut-under-control -> falling-in-love -> conflict -> redemption.
Apolli is one of the Rick Dias pilot IIRC; he's the last RD pilot got killed. I'm saying so just to show that the coverage in Four is so bad you have more sympathy to a supporting character than to Four.
Maybe, but I'm sure it's a translation text I read.
That's true, Tomino is a bit stubborn here. He just got to do it the way that, yeah, I'm a robot anime writer but I'm not confined to Gundam.
For Tomino re-doing Zeta was, as he said, try to re-do a work he was unsatisfied with. Zeta mechandize will happens anyway, movie or not. The important part is, does Tomio have the creativity control without Bandai interference. And for Bandai I think they don't mind Tomino changing the ending (again, we're embracing non-linear narrative here, which is a trend since Bandai is embracing video games to drive toy/model sales) as long as they got a certain number of the MSs show up on screen.
Do I have to list those anime within this 6 years that was considered successful during their runs but is generally forgotten? Turn A is surely not comparable to Akira or Nausicaa in longetivity, but it's just like you're saying, Gundam series is a failure as it's not as popular internationally as Godzilla.
Now you remind me, yes, I know. Confucius is never my cup of tea... I only support his POV on respect to elderly of the society but nothing else, esp. when later geneerations of people (the empires, I means) has been misquoted and misinterpret his teaching to turn the society to one not due to respect but due to classes & seniority. I called what we have on Conficism, "Confuse-is-us".
I care much more about Mencius though.Boaz MyTurnASpace wrote:
> Four is believeable? I think Apolli is more believeable than her.
If I remember who Apolli is, I might agree with you ;) I was just
saying the nutjobs in Zeta are generally more understandable than the
sane characters.
I think it's just because Four is so 2-D; she's simplye nut-under-control -> falling-in-love -> conflict -> redemption.
Apolli is one of the Rick Dias pilot IIRC; he's the last RD pilot got killed. I'm saying so just to show that the coverage in Four is so bad you have more sympathy to a supporting character than to Four.
> for mechandizing (I own you the reference here; I'll find it for you. It's
> either in one of Turn A book's interview or any interview read online. Can
> anyone here help me with this?); so Turn A is exactly a success for Tomino
> as an author.
I think you might be referring to the long interview in 2nd or 3rd
issue of Gundam Ace? His whining against the establishment is well
Maybe, but I'm sure it's a translation text I read.
known, but many of his peers did something about it: they left the
establishment and create their own freedom and success. He gets
jealous over Miyazaki, Anno etc doing whatever they want, but he never
blaze a new trail for himself. Bandai gave him Turn-A as a sort of
lifetime achievement award but a happier arrangement is (1) give up
the franchise to the toy-makers (Seed) and (2) revisit an old thing
(Zeta) that "coincidentally" was also a bloom for merchandising.
That's true, Tomino is a bit stubborn here. He just got to do it the way that, yeah, I'm a robot anime writer but I'm not confined to Gundam.
For Tomino re-doing Zeta was, as he said, try to re-do a work he was unsatisfied with. Zeta mechandize will happens anyway, movie or not. The important part is, does Tomio have the creativity control without Bandai interference. And for Bandai I think they don't mind Tomino changing the ending (again, we're embracing non-linear narrative here, which is a trend since Bandai is embracing video games to drive toy/model sales) as long as they got a certain number of the MSs show up on screen.
> As for failure in rating... remember the 0079 series was downright cancelled
> in initial run. It's the fanfare and mechandize that revived the show. For
> Turn A, as it's intentionally "not for mechandize", the response is much
> weaker. But even you'd say Turn A is a great show, so you have to admit the
> fanfare is there.
Well I wasn't talking about (short-term) rating or merchandising in
particular. But I roll a bunch of things up in calling Turn-A a
failure. On merchandising, Victory is generally considered a failure,
but it still one-up Turn-A since in 2005(?) one of the twinket line
included a figure for Victory Gundam. Turn-A, AFAIK, didn't crack
into any of the twinket line in the last couple years. I think that
says something here.
As anime-not-toy-commercial, there are many ways to gauge its impact,
"artistic" success can be measured by how often people still mention
it many years later. Fans would be drawing fan arts (and sending them
to Newtype and hobby mags), there would be labor-of-love resin models
(if not GK's) of Loran and other characters. There are many top-10
(or top-100) lists for fans to express their love. Akira, NGE and
Nausicaa are still maintaining a low level hum many years later.
Turn-A is only 6 years old but it's already forgotten in the anime
world.
Do I have to list those anime within this 6 years that was considered successful during their runs but is generally forgotten? Turn A is surely not comparable to Akira or Nausicaa in longetivity, but it's just like you're saying, Gundam series is a failure as it's not as popular internationally as Godzilla.
> I'm sure he didn't say "bull shit", but it'd be a funny gag. :-D
I hope you know which quote I'm refering to.
Now you remind me, yes, I know. Confucius is never my cup of tea... I only support his POV on respect to elderly of the society but nothing else, esp. when later geneerations of people (the empires, I means) has been misquoted and misinterpret his teaching to turn the society to one not due to respect but due to classes & seniority. I called what we have on Conficism, "Confuse-is-us".
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Boaz
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