On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 09:02:17AM -0500, Mikki Barry wrote:
> >> I agree the foul stencg of secret deals from IAHC
> >> days still lingers, but you're on a witch hunt Kent.
> >
> >Something you should be very familiar with, I must admit.
> 
> So much for working together for the common good of the Internet.

You're right -- phrases like "foul stench" and "witch hunt" aren't 
very productive, are they?

> Is there
> any possible way we can stop the sniping and maybe start being more
> productive?

I doubt it -- mindless sniping about open vs closed meetings/lists
seems absolutely entrenched.  I just thought I would join in on the
fun. 

It is sadly true that people have fixated on the issue of "closed" vs
"open" meetings/lists, and it has become a mantra for mindless
criticism of people whose position you don't agree with.  But the
fact is that meetings and lists have many purposes besides public
discussion.  Sometimes they are narrowly focused on acomplishing some
goal -- these are "working" meetings or lists.  Working meetings and
lists typically *should* be closed, because the primary goal is the
job to be done, not public discussion.  If you don't close them they 
get flooded with irrelevant side discussions, and nothing gets done.  

I actually think this flooding is a plot, hatched on the closed 
bwg-n-friends list.

-- 
Kent Crispin, PAB Chair                         "Do good, and you'll be
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                               lonesome." -- Mark Twain

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