Stef and all,
Stef is correct here. The decision to form constituencies as part of the
DNSO structure ins a travesty and a divide an conquer mechanism for
the masses. It only leads to a confusion, as stef has indicated in this post.
The fleecing of the DNS and the Internet has just been taken to a new level.
Those that follow this process will be fleeced, and I feel sorry for none
that go along...
Einar Stefferud wrote:
> Hello Ed and Joop --
>
> I fear that some kind of short circuit has occurred here.
> Maybe several all at once;-)...
>
> So, lets back up and reset/restart.
>
> I am not entirely opposed to constituencies, but I am opposed to them
> as ICANN is using them. I am not organizing one of my own, but I am
> supporting several others while also promoting competition for ICANN
> because I find that ICANN ignores too many of the people who
> particicpate in their stilted divide and conquer constituency
> formation games, while paying great attention to unamed and invisible
> supporters who lurk in the shadows and appear to manipulate things.
>
> But, I am visibly supporting several constituencies, namely the IDNO
> that Joop is forming, and the TLDA that Milton (Gene) Marsh is
> forming, in the upside hopes that they might have some influence, and
> the downside hopes that ICANN will quash them and clearly show its
> real intentions to exclude them from having any influence.
>
> Of course, it is also possible that ICANN will embrace them and still
> ignore them, in the strategy of "holding your enemies close". this is
> why I am putting the greater effort into competing, as I find that
> ICANN pays more attention to competition than to my contituencies.
>
> I do not support the DNSO-IP constituency as it is cleary working
> against my interests, but we shoudl not confuse the DNSO-IP)
> constituncy with the IDNO constituency, though I must say the the
> alphbet soup of constituency names has reached the point of no
> return;-)...
>
> Cheers...\Stef
>
> >From your message Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:22:33 -0700:
> }
> }Joop Teernstra wrote:
> }
> }> Friends,
> }>
> }> All 34 individuals that have so far underwritten the IDNO constituency,
> }> actually oppose the idea of constituencies for the DNSO.
> }
> }Joop:
> }
> }Not at all.
> }
> }I think your text is a far stetch and one that is not granted. It should be
> }recalled in totum. When anyone joins any Internet open group that is
> }done most of the times if not all, not to oppose anything from the past
> }but to help build something better for the future. To say otherwise is
> }to misuse their trust.
> }
> }It is also misleading to consider mere listserver subscription as "support"
> }or "opposition" when most of the time people just want to hear what is
> }happening.
> }
> }> Those who do not want organisations to be their voice, seem to be forming
> }> something that already looks like an organization.
> }>
> }> A contradiction?
> }
> }No, a sophism.
> }
> }> These few dozen founding members are set to become the the little crystal
> }> dropped in the over-saturated solution.
> }
> }This is IMO a gross unwarranted use of those who decided to participate in
> }dnso-ip -- including but not limited to 34, if that is not all of dnso-ip.
> }
> }Unless this attitude is retracted here and now I suggest that anyone in that
> }group
> }of 34 (whom you have not named) is signing a blank check for your
> }endorsement.
> }
> }If anyone considers my name in that group of "few dozen .. set to become the
> }little
> }crystal", due to my previous messages and this dnso-ip list subscription,
> }than
> }such someone is mistaken.
> }
> }> They will go out and spread the message.
> }
> }No -- how can you say that 34 people are going to follow your agenda,
> }which has been BTW hidden so far from any public discussion? Do you
> }realize you are co-opting 34 people -- who, if they remain silent, are just
> }useless since so controlled?
> }
> }
> }> Every day brings more statements of support as a direct result of their
> }> evangelism.
> }
> }Their -- who?
> }
> }> In the end the mass of individuals with their voting rights in the DNSO
> }> remains.
> }>
> }> This is the vision.
> }
> }Not mine and that was never said here when dnso-ip started.
> }
> }> I urge all Domain Name Owners to support it, including those who will
> }> participate in the formation of the other constituencies.
> }
> }On the contrary, I ask you to please erase this bad start and may it serve as
> }
> }an example of what cannot be done.
> }
> }Ed Gerck
> }
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