Ed and all,
And the divisiveness continues....
Ed Gerck wrote:
> Einar Stefferud wrote:
>
> > So, lets back up and reset/restart.
>
> Yes.
>
> > I do not support the DNSO-IP constituency as it is cleary working
> > against my interests, but we shoudl not confuse the DNSO-IP)
> > constituncy with the IDNO constituency,
>
> ;-) and not the DNSO-IP constituency with the dnso-ip list at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the other DNSO-IP constituency, which
> is more or less around that [EMAIL PROTECTED] list but not exactly
> the same -- please see the descriptions at
> http://www.icann.org/dnso/constituency_groups.html#info
>
> > though I must say the the
> > alphbet soup of constituency names has reached the point of no
> > return;-)...
>
> Yes. To clarify -- there are *two* different DNSO-IPs. Of course,
> nothing prevents more than *one* constituency to form. But, why?
>
> The formation of the Intellectual Property constituency proceeded in
> two entirely different fronts: face-to-face meetings among representatives
> from established trademark organizations and a more grass-roots approach
> via these forums and the dnso-ip list -- thus these two DNSO-IPs should
> not be confused with one another and your message may serve as a
> motivation (or, my excuse) to call this difference.
>
> And this split is also IMO occuring across the board as, indeed, it is not
> necessarily a good strategy to coalesce all folks who act as isolated,
> non-commercial or individual domain name holders into one single
> constituency in the good name of "consensus"-- as noted when the
> dnso-ip list was formed.
>
> The first meeting of the established trademark organizations (AIPPI,
> AIPLA, FICPI, ECTA, and INTA) was held, by invitation only, in Toronto
> in March. So no trademark owners or other Internet stakeholders were
> invited to this meeting that formed the first DNSO-IP contituency, which
> was submitted to ICANN by Michael Heltzer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]),
> March 31, 1999.
>
> The second DNSO-IP constituency was submitted by Bret Fausett
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), April 9, 1999 and is being organized using the
> dnso-ip list named above -- and which was CC'd in Joop's message,
> as the only DNSO group CC'd.
>
> Hence, my comments and call for a restart. There are not only too
> many letters in this soup but many letters have double meanings (at
> least) ;-).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed Gerck
Regards,
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