William,

> As a consumer you are a part of a market, you make certain choices.
> These choices include which TLD to register under, which internet
> provider to use, etc.
> 
> None of what has been discussed on this thread had any relation to
> privacy policies with regard to unsolicited advertisements.
> 
   
I think Mark is trying to say that the Net is not *only a 
market(enhancing) device in the same way as he is not *only a 
consumer. It may be that the choices he has available to make are 
provided by (and curtailed by) markets, in the same way that his 
terminology and references have been conditioned by marketing-
enhancers -- and all of this not only 'has any relation' but is 
absolutely central to privacy policy, and net administration. 

Isnt it ironic that your own use of the language (for instance, 
lumping Ronda's arguments for a common good in with 'failed 
socialism') is clearly *not the result of your deliberate exercise of 
'market choice' in languages, but merely echoes a widespread 
*collective pattern of capitalistic speech? But I accept that you are 
convinced you have 'adopted' it -- that is the word, isnt it? -- and 
thus fail to see that your  rhetorical dogma, in castigating Mark's 
individualism as somehow contrary to free-market principles, 
contradicts itself. 

If you could grasp that fact, you might then notice first, that your 
vaunted markets are dominated by corporations which are not 
individualistic at all, but just as centrally-directed as the 'socialism' 
which 'failed' (will we say 'WXW failed' when you die at 80?); and 
second, that they survive only because they are embedded in a 
social matrix of ideas -- can you say 'common sense'? -- which 
defends individual competence (what 'your' language calls 
competition).  But I rest easily, assured that you wont notice any 
such thing (because you have been adopted by that famous 
couple, Divide and Conquer (no, not in the Garden, but the Field of 
Levelplaying if my free translation of Kurukshetra isnt too far off ;-)), 
and only speak their language of Absolutism. Thus there's no need 
to go on to explain the _dialectic of materialism_ and how 
'collectivism' and 'individualism' are two conceptual poles between 
which *all human systems have ever organized themselves.

No, there's no point in so abusing this list (where most people have 
already got over that *relativistic point), until you demonstrate that 
you can think for yourself. The persuasive evidence of that (insofar 
as there is any market for evidence at all) will be when you give up 
the pontifical role ("The people who use the internet are a "market" 
) and speak for yourself. 

Try it - you'll like it!

kerry

  P.S. I apologize for my lack of profundity. I really wish I could say 
things like 'The Law is not your mommy or daddy" every time I post.


  

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