Roberto and all,

  Well Roberto, in that you did not take the proper responsibility
to unsubscribe your old address at ESTI, I for one have little
sympathy for you dilemma, and fine your comments here just
a bit inconsistent with reason.

Richard J. Sexton wrote:

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> >Subject: IFWP list and Internet Governance
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> >Hi, IFWPers.
> >
> >This mail will bounce, as I am unable to get the subscription to the IFWP
> >list with my new address.
> >
> >I first asked Richard Sexton to change my address, and he referred me to
> >instructions at the Web site http://www.open-rsc.org/ - please note that to
> >address a mail to Richard is already a non-straightforward task for the 99%
> >"minority" who refers to the root system as authoritative ;>)
> >
> >I followed instructions at the site (http://www.open-rsc.org/lists/others/),
> >and asked people at my former site to unsubscribe my old address, while I
> >subscribed my new one.
> >
> >In fact, after a couple of days ("Gee, isn't the list silent!"), I realized
> >that the thing did not work. The postmaster at ETSI told me that my mailbox,
> >that is still active for administrative reasons, is flooded with IFWP
> >messages, while I did not get any.
> >So, we did everything once again. But, surprise!, the system did not do it,
> >because it claimed it was already done.
> >
> >So, last resort, the E-Mail address on the Web site for "problems &
> >suggestions", [EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact, it is Andy Sernowitz' E-mail,
> >and he kindly answered that he is not managing this since a year ago.
> >
> >I think that this, while it is just a minor incident (maybe in my getting
> >settled in the new job, city and country I would not have had time anyhow to
> >go through my mail), it is interesting in relationship with the proposal
> >that comes in waves about the IFWP list as the voting body of the Internet,
> >and/or the candidate "unique" list for all Internet issues, and so on. If we
> >cannot change a subscriber's address, can we be trusted in checking voting
> >rights of participants?
> >
> >The cc: to the dnso list has two purposes: first to ask some DNSOer to
> >forward this message to the IFWP, and second to acknowledge that the same
> >operation on the DNSO lists worked the first time through.
> >
> >
> >Regards
> >Roberto
> >
> >P.S.: Please note that my new address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], effective
> >1999-07-01. This is only temporary, because I will move to a personal
> >address soon.
> >
> >
> >
> --
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> "They were of a mind to govern us and we were of a mind to govern ourselves."

Regards,

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