Luc and all,
Here is my original response in full again (Also see below):
" Luc, your contention here has SOME merit. There has been allot
of name calling false aspersions thrown around, and other nonproductive
comments made to be sure. But you ore only half right in this
contention. Many on the various lists have made many suggestions
good and bad. It would be nice for the internet press to focus more
on those than feeding the flames... In other words, focus on the
issues!!"
As to Gordon's response of "Ignorant Fool", and no elaboration,
It was clear to me anyway that he pretty much described the lack of
focusing on the issues, by the writer, in those two words alone....
Luc Hatlestad wrote:
> I didn't see your response, but if the objective is to forward the debate,
> "ignorant fool, and here's why..." would be far more productive than just
> the insult.
>
> And if I might defend my colleague, the thing readers need to remember is
> that a columnist's objective is to entertain and provoke as well as inform,
> and it is extraordinarily difficult to boil down such a complex discussion
> into 500 "pithy" words. Also, given the polarizations this issue has
> created, any viewpoint is bound to anger someone. (I received a furious
> letter from SAIC CEO Dr. Beyster in response to my story.) Still, the issue
> is too important to ignore, so columns like these will continue to appear.
> The good thing about most columnists (and columns) is that if you can show
> them they're wrong, they'll usually modify their opinion. If you just
> insult them, they'll ignore you or insult you back.
>
> At 11:53 AM 8/11/99 +0100, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >Luc and all,
> >
> > Well Luc, in all honesty, that is exactly what the writer is displaying,
> >ignorance... I know this seems denigrating, and I am sure that Gordon
> >Cook did not intend it that way. But not doing your homework is not
> >a valid excuse for the article that he/she wrote or writes. Hence
> >Gordon's response of "Ignorant Fool", and my response in some
> >small amount of detail...
> >
> >Luc Hatlestad wrote:
> >
> >> I see your point, but the ZD writer did make some concrete, rational
> >> recommendations--albeit in a strident tone, but that's what columnists
> >> do--and he got called an ignorant fool for his troubles.
> >>
> >> At 10:52 AM 8/11/99 +0100, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >> >Jay Luc and all,
> >> >
> >> > Luc, your contention here has SOME merit. There has been allot
> >> >of name calling false aspersions thrown around, and other nonproductive
> >> >comments made to be sure. But you ore only half right in this
> >> >contention. Many on the various lists have made many suggestions
> >> >good and bad. It would be nice for the internet press to focus more
> >> >on those than feeding the flames... In other words, focus on the
> >> >issues!!
> >> >
> >> >Jay Fenello wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> At 12:14 PM 8/11/99 , Luc Hatlestad wrote:
> >> >> >I'm not sure how I got included on this list, but I assume it was
> because
> >> >> >of the story I wrote about NSI. Since I'm here, an observation: From
> what
> >> >> >I've seen so far, you guys are quite good at name calling but haven't
> >> >> >offered up much in the way of real solutions to this growing problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> In that case, I respectfully suggest that
> >> >> you have not yet done all of your homework.
> >> >>
> >> >> Many, many of the problems that ICANN is
> >> >> experiencing today, are a direct result of
> >> >> their refusal to embrace diversity in their
> >> >> ranks, and deviations in their grand plan.
> >> >>
> >> >> The solutions which you seek are the ones
> >> >> that ICANN has ignored. Please check the
> >> >> archives, or ask any historical questions
> >> >> you'd like. Most of the participants are
> >> >> still on these lists, and would be happy
> >> >> to recount this history in great detail.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jay.
> >> >>
> >> >> >LH
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >At 11:55 AM 8/11/99 -0400, Jay Fenello wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>At 11:27 AM 8/11/99 , Gordon Cook wrote:
> >> >> >>>>http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,2311649,00.html
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>randy barret..... ignorant fool
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/comment/0,5859,2298770,00.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Ziff/Davis, the publisher of Inter@ctive Week,
> >> >> >>PC Week, Sm@rt Reseller, and a slew of other
> >> >> >>magazines, is clearly on *one* side of this
> >> >> >>issue.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>I wonder why?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Respectfully,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Jay Fenello
> >> >> >>President, Iperdome, Inc. 404-943-0524
> >> >> >>-----------------------------------------------
> >> >> >>What's your .per(sm)? http://www.iperdome.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> Respectfully,
> >> >>
> >> >> Jay Fenello
> >> >> President, Iperdome, Inc. 404-943-0524
> >> >> -----------------------------------------------
> >> >> What's your .per(sm)? http://www.iperdome.com
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Jeffrey A. Williams
> >> >Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
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> >> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >--
> >Jeffrey A. Williams
> >Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
> >CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> >Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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> >
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contact Number: 972-447-1894
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