Re: Re[4]: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

[Planet Communications Computing Facility]

Oh no noe william, that incorrect, what I am saying is that ICANN is a
near government organization (NGO) and should have simular privacy
regulations in place - if not - it stands to be subject to further
criticism.

On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, William X. Walsh wrote:

> Monday, August 23, 1999, 4:43:57 AM, Planet Communications Computing Facility 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > The existence or non existence of a provision and it's application is
> > not relevant here.  What is at issue is the right to incorporate privacy
> > law into icann at an oportune time - NOW.
> 
> But it is the existence and application of provisions that you have
> been using to justify why such a policy is needed.
> 
> As was already pointed out by Roberto, any can login using any name
> and email address (and anyone can get any number of free email
> addresses - I should know I run a free email service).  No one is
> checking IDs or verifying identities (though there are some who would
> like to see this happen in order to get rid of the "JW" club).  It is
> merely a contact address, and a name the person will be known as.
> 
> This is a lot more privacy protection than most government run forums
> provide, where a voter registration, or state issued ID card is
> required to be presented, logged, and noted.
> 
> In other words, it's a non-issue.
> 
> Tell your people to sign-in as Jeffrey A. Williams III or some such
> moniker, and I'll even give them a free email alias @inegroup.net to
> further protect their anonymity.
> 
> While you are at it, tell them to make sure to connect through some
> sort of proxy server setup to the IRC server, since after all, the IRC
> logs will be able to record what IP address and internet provider they
> are using to connect.
> 
> The point of this is that there is privacy, and then there is privacy.
> How far you take it has to be situational, and if it is that important
> to you, as an individual, there are things you can do, as an
> individual, to protect it.  But if you want to be counted, and have a
> voice, you can expect to have to be identified.
> 
> If that's not a concern for the people you are speaking for, then they
> can go get free email aliases at any of a plethora of places (I can
> provide references to over 200) and login with any damn name they
> choose.  They can even us one of the anonymizing web proxies to login
> at the berkman center webpage so that the webserver doesn't log their
> IP Address (but as I said, this will not work with the IRC Server, and
> would require a special proxy be setup).
> 
> Sheesh, if it is that much of an issue I'LL setup the proxy for your
> users to utilize.
> 
> Privacy and anonymity are personal issues, best left out of policy
> discussions.  The participants can decide for themselves what level of
> privacy they need/want to exercise, and take the limited available
> participation options that come with them as a result.
> 
> --
> William X. Walsh - DSo Internet Services
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