William and all,
William X. Walsh wrote:
> Monday, August 23, 1999, 4:43:57 AM, Planet Communications Computing Facility
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The existence or non existence of a provision and it's application is
> > not relevant here. What is at issue is the right to incorporate privacy
> > law into icann at an oportune time - NOW.
>
> But it is the existence and application of provisions that you have
> been using to justify why such a policy is needed.
>
> As was already pointed out by Roberto, any can login using any name
> and email address (and anyone can get any number of free email
> addresses - I should know I run a free email service). No one is
> checking IDs or verifying identities (though there are some who would
> like to see this happen in order to get rid of the "JW" club). It is
> merely a contact address, and a name the person will be known as.
But this does not address JeffM's concern, William, or at least not completely.
What JeffM is saying, and has said in his posts to Ben Edelman, is that
the Berkman center has taken it upon themselves to make this decision
without proper legal consent, by logging certain information about a
particular user. That is wrong, and likely not legal either... And for the
Berkman Center to be engaging in this sort of activity is both poor
judgment and egotistical...
>
>
> This is a lot more privacy protection than most government run forums
> provide, where a voter registration, or state issued ID card is
> required to be presented, logged, and noted.
In Texas you only register as a voter every 4 years. You are than at voting
time only required to provide proof of legal identification. And this is only
for VOTING purposes. The State, any state is not supposed to give out
the registered voters name to anyone, if requested not to do so by the
registered voter in question. If the state does, without proper legal
authority, such as a criminal summons, than they are acting in an
illegal fashion and can be held criminally liable...
>
>
> In other words, it's a non-issue.
No it is not... (See above)
>
>
> Tell your people to sign-in as Jeffrey A. Williams III or some such
> moniker, and I'll even give them a free email alias @inegroup.net to
> further protect their anonymity.
Yeah, kinda like your other persona @law.com, eh willie!!???
>
>
> While you are at it, tell them to make sure to connect through some
> sort of proxy server setup to the IRC server, since after all, the IRC
> logs will be able to record what IP address and internet provider they
> are using to connect.
>
> The point of this is that there is privacy, and then there is privacy.
> How far you take it has to be situational, and if it is that important
> to you, as an individual, there are things you can do, as an
> individual, to protect it. But if you want to be counted, and have a
> voice, you can expect to have to be identified.
Very true statement here...
>
>
> If that's not a concern for the people you are speaking for, then they
> can go get free email aliases at any of a plethora of places (I can
> provide references to over 200) and login with any damn name they
> choose. They can even us one of the anonymizing web proxies to login
> at the berkman center webpage so that the webserver doesn't log their
> IP Address (but as I said, this will not work with the IRC Server, and
> would require a special proxy be setup).
>
> Sheesh, if it is that much of an issue I'LL setup the proxy for your
> users to utilize.
>
> Privacy and anonymity are personal issues, best left out of policy
> discussions. The participants can decide for themselves what level of
> privacy they need/want to exercise, and take the limited available
> participation options that come with them as a result.
>
> --
> William X. Walsh - DSo Internet Services
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>
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