Combo sounds good to me.
I will say that if someone has to be the moderator IMHO it would be hard
to pick someone better than Prof. Zittrain. But they won't always be that
good -- so adding in a little dash of randomness to season the sauce
sounds about right....
I strongly agree that FIFO is a very lousy rule.
On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Ben Edelman wrote:
> Ellen suggested:
>
> > Appropriate first tier filters would be:
> > a) deferring off-topic comments
> > b) acknowledgikng one comment per individual per topic
> > c) curtailing long responses beyond 250 words.
>
> These are a good start. Indeed, they're filters we definitely need and
> absolutely intend to put in place through a combination of code and
> discretion of the Berkman staff.
>
> But what do we do if there just turn out to be too many comments that pass
> these three criteria?
>
> Some ideas off the top of my head:
>
> * FIFO (first-in-first-out). We've got time for, say, eight remote comments
> per agenda item. First six people to send their messages get read (say, in
> their entirety), others go into the archive.
>
> * Moderator's Choice. A Berkman staff person -- primarily Professor
> Zittrain, for those of you wondering! -- reviews all the messages received
> prior to the first time remote comments are recognized on a particular
> subject, and he reads the ones that he thinks are most significant.
> "Significant" is of course the tricky part -- he could look for views not
> already stated by physical participants, but then the majority voice is
> artificially weakened by his selection process so that doesn't seem quite
> right. He could look for messages that seem most thought-provoking from an
> academic perspective, but neither is that quite what we need. Yet if one
> placed sufficient trust in Mr. Zittrain -- as I'll admit I personally do,
> make no mistake about it -- this could be acceptable.
>
> * Randomly, as Michael Froomkin suggested.
>
> * Some other way, including perhaps some combination of the above. I do
> like the idea of combining random selection with some other method -- say,
> take seven messages selected by whatever process is used primarily, then one
> random message from the remainder.
>
> I really do think this is a hard problem. Personally, I'm totally
> dissatisfied with the incentives of FIFO ("write early and you'll get
> recognized, quality no matter"). But, I can understand why Moderator's
> Choice isn't appealing to those who, for whatever reason, just don't trust
> the particular individuals doing the job, perhaps preferring a system that
> goes beyond the moral character of the staff involved.
>
>
> > I thought the mix of remote participation and physical participation at
> the
> > Names Council meeting on June 25 worked fairly well, with a large screen
> at
> > the front of the room. The pNC checked the screen occasionally, but
> > haphazardly. Fairness dictates building those checks into the physical
> > agenda every ten or fifteen minutes.
>
> I'm not familiar with the particulars of the NC's remote participation, but
> their methodology sounds reasonable. Yet realize that it's not so hard to
> do remote participation a small, low-volume scale. Indeed, from my
> recollections (admittedly just that, but I think likely reflected in the
> comments on this list) of the remote participation on the DNSO and GAC
> meetings on the first day of Berlin, things go well with remote
> participation until some critical point of messages-received-per-minute is
> reached. When below the threshold, it's easy to choose messages -- just
> apply baseline criteria like the three Ellen suggested above, and indeed
> that's what we did that first day.
>
> But the question in my mind remains: What do you do when there are too many
> acceptable, on-topic, concise remote comments? How to choose?
>
>
>
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Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN-Santiago Remote Participation
Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:11:47 -0700
- Re[2]: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICAN... William X. Walsh
- Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN-S... Planet Communications Computing Facility
- Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN-S... Gordon Cook
- Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICA... Dan Steinberg
- Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE:... Jeff Williams
- Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICA... Jeff Williams
- Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICA... Michael Sondow
- Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE:... Planet Communications Computing Facility
- Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN-S... Ellen Rony
- Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICA... Kent Crispin
- Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN-S... Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law
- Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN-Santia... Bret A. Fausett
- Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN-S... Jeff Williams
- Re: Re[2]: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN... Ben Edelman
- Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN-S... Jeff Williams
- Re[2]: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN-San... Ben Edelman
- Re: Re[2]: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ... Mark C. Langston
- Re: Re[2]: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN... BrandonButterworth
- Re: Re[2]: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN... Ben Edelman
