Judith and all,

  No I have not.  We signed before these agreements were in place.
At any rate those agreements are not legally enforceable under US law
currently according to my legal staff, and the current legal record,
which is growing bears that out.

Judith Oppenheimer wrote:

> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Joe Judith and all,
> >
> >   Well I have read it, and I don't see all of what you are talking about
> > here.  But in any event, I am not too concerned.  If ICANN tries
> > to make me sigh an agreement upon renewal that is egregious
> > there are several legal avenues I can take.  I may sign it but I will
> > do so under great deress and state so.  At that point I have several
> > avenues that I can pursue should that become necessary...
>
> Jeff,
>
> You've already signed -- the language resides in your existing domain name
> agreements with your registrar ...
>
> EXISTING REGISTRAR
> DOMAIN NAME REVOCATION POLICIES
>
> Network Solutions (NSI)
> http://www.networksolutions.com/legal/dispute-policy.html
> Revocation. The registrant agrees that Network Solutions shall have the right
> in its sole discretion to revoke, suspend, transfer or otherwise modify a
> domain name registration upon thirty (30) calendar days prior written notice,
> OR at such time as Network Solutions receives a properly authenticated order
> from a court of competent jurisdiction, or arbitration award, requiring the
> revocation, suspension, transfer or modification of the domain name
> registration.
>
> CORE - Council of Internet Registrars (global)
> http://www.corenic.org/dispute-policy/CORE-dispute-policy.htm
> Revocation. The registrant agrees that CORE shall have the right in its sole
> discretion to revoke, suspend, transfer or otherwise modify a domain name
> registration upon thirty (30) calendar days prior written notice, OR at such
> time as CORE receives a properly authenticated order from a court of competent
> jurisdiction, or arbitration award, requiring the revocation, suspension,
> transfer or modification of the domain name registration.
>
> Domain Bank
> http://ru.domainbank.net/reg_agreement.cfm
> Breach and Revocation. ... You also agree that Domain Bank shall have the right
> in its sole discretion to revoke, suspend, transfer or otherwise modify a
> domain name registration upon seven (7) calendar days prior written notice, OR
> ...
>
> A+Net/ABACUS America, Inc. (United States)
> dba Names4Ever
> http://www.names4ever.com/dp.html
> Revocation. The registrant agrees that A+Net shall have the right in its sole
> discretion to revoke, suspend, transfer or otherwise modify a domain name
> registration upon thirty (30) calendar days prior written notice, OR ...
>
> NameSecure
> http://www.namesecure.com/services/registration_agreement.cfm
> REVOCATION. ... You agree that we may, in our sole discretion, delete or
> transfer your domain name at any time.
>
> Register.com
> http://register.com/service-agreement.cgi?1|142560921
> Breach and Revocation.  You also agree that register.com shall have the right
> in its sole discretion to suspend, cancel, transfer or otherwise modify a
> domain name registration upon seven (7) calendar days prior written notice.
>
> And as pointed out by intellectual property attorney Carl Oppendahl, upon query
> you're likely to get a response such as that in NameSecure's FAQ:
>
> http://www.namesecure.com/services/dispute_policy_faqs.cfm which says:
>
>         6. What about this term in your Registration Agreement
>         that �you agree that we may, in our sole discretion,
>         delete or transfer your domain name at any time�?
>
>         We hope we will never have to use this term. It is in our
>         Registration Agreement simply to enable us to take
>         action if we find no other way to correct something
>         that we feel needs correction.
>
> Judith
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Joe Judith and all,
> >
> >   Well I have read it, and I don't see all of what you are talking about
> > here.  But in any event, I am not too concerned.  If ICANN tries
> > to make me sigh an agreement upon renewal that is egregious
> > there are several legal avenues I can take.  I may sign it but I will
> > do so under great deress and state so.  At that point I have several
> > avenues that I can pursue should that become necessary...
> >
> > J. Baptista wrote:
> >
> > > From: Judith Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:47:00 EDT
> > > Subject: Don'tTakeMyDomainName.com
> > >
> > > > Dear Domain Name/Web Site Owner:
> > >
> > > > "Your domain name can be cancelled, revoked, deleted or
> > > > transferred at any time at our discretion."
> > >
> > > > Signed,
> > >
> > > > Every .com registrar.
> > > > *********
> > >
> > > This is not maybe, or later.  This is now.
> > >
> > > It's got nothing to do with trademark disputes or contested
> > > name disputes.
> > >
> > > Your trademark status does not exempt you.
> > >
> > > Agreements among ICANN, the U.S. Department of Commerce, and Network
> > > Solutions, Inc., have been placed at http://www.icann.org/agreements.htm.
> > >
> > > There is a public comment period which will end on October 29, 1999.
> > > A link for comments - http://www.icann.org/agreements.htm -
> > > is supposed to be available later today.
> > >
> > >     "Any language, including the ICANN Registrar Accreditation
> > >     Agreement clause J.7.i.,  that results in domain name seizure
> > >     policies in registrar/registrant contracts, should be stricken
> > >     immediately."
> > >
> > > Feel free to comment using use this suggested language.
> > >
> > > If you'd like more background information or documentation
> > > prior to commenting, email me at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > > subject head Don'tTakeMyDomainName.com.
> > >
> > > Judith Oppenheimer, 1 800 The Expert, 212 684-7210
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Publisher of ICB Toll Free News: http://icbtollfree.com
> > > Publisher of WhoSells800.com: http://whosells800.com
> > > Moderator TOLLFREE-L: http://www.egroups.com/group/tollfree-l/info.html
> > > President of ICB Consultancy: http://JudithOppenheimer.com
> > >
> > > TOLLFREE-L is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted
> > > by Judith Oppenheimer, publisher of ICB Toll Free News
> > > (http://icbtollfree.com) & WhoSells800.com
> > > (http://whosells800.com), and President of ICB Toll
> > > Free Consultancy (http://800consulting.com).
> > >
> > > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: So tell me Judith, has ICANN made a
> > > grab or power play for your domain name yet?  How long do you think
> > > it will be before a telco somewhere decides they need 'tollfree' for
> > > the name of some commercial website they decide to operate and you
> > > lose it?
> > >
> > > Seriously people, you need to go look and READ CLOSELY the nightmarish
> > > contract that you get to sign the next time your domain name comes
> > > up for renewal. They mean business. The internet is not yours any
> > > longer. The contract is horrible, and is tilted entirely in favor of
> > > Big Business, the people that put ICANN in business and intend tokeep
> > > it there. PAT]
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Contact Number:  972-447-1894
> > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
>
> --
> Judith Oppenheimer, 1 800 The Expert, 212 684-7210
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Publisher of ICB Toll Free News: http://icbtollfree.com
> Publisher of WhoSells800.com: http://whosells800.com
> Moderator TOLLFREE-L: http://www.egroups.com/group/tollfree-l/info.html
> President of ICB Consultancy: http://JudithOppenheimer.com

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contact Number:  972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208


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