Vincent:

I am unsure why someone who needs to learn LDAP needs to learn SQL. At least, in a career-related context. Not to say that any curiosity should go unsatisfied, nor that broadening one's knowledge is ever a bad thing...

But, what is the career plan you have for yourself? I am going to guess that if you are shooting for LDAP, RH certs, and you have a big history of Unix admin, you are looking to stay in sysadmin, but freshen up your resume? Move towards DBA? Asked differently, how do you see yourself practically using your SQL knowledge once you have it?

There's not much need for deep SQL knowledge in a systems admin. In a DBA or developer? Yes.

Were I a sysadmin looking to update my skill set, I would look for fresh knowledge/certs/experience in security (SANS, ISC2, etc), virtualization, broaden out to include capabilities for Windows support, maybe gain managerial skills, etc. Instead of spending time on learning SQL itself, I would orient myself towards learning how to manage multiple DBMS platforms: backup, replication, clustering, etc, none of which require a high SQ (SQL Quotient). :)

On 11/9/2010 9:36 PM, Vincent Cameron wrote:



Exactly;

Let's just pleeeezzzz, calm down, and push back the testosterone. I will not be giving any trophies, medal or certificates..

I am very sure all of you are well qualified and very much over achievers. 

What I am really looking to do is...
  • Learn SQL -  AND other tools such as python, LDAP  and some others....etc..
  • And maybe in the up coming year get certified in Red Hat Linux
  • To backup my my 20 years of Unix admin experience...
So that I can get a job....

And I will take any advice you guys can provide...

Thanks to everyone....  Vincent Cameron..



From: Howard Roberts <[email protected]>
To: Jax-LUG <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 10:55:27 AM
Subject: Re: Learn SQL at home

On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 10:18 -0500, Paul Tiseo wrote:
> let's return to the topic of learning SQL,
> factual or experiential.

I think that would be most productive, yes. Vincent originally asked
about "a free package that I can install at home to start to work with
SQL?"

Wouldn't it be more helpful to know more about what Vincent means by
"work with SQL", specifically, his familiarity with SQL and more
broadly, his working knowledge of relational databases in general,
creating tables and normalizing data, etc, before making specific
suggestions?

Granted, each RDBMS system varies a bit in its implementation of SQL,
and each has different strengths and weaknesses, but depending on
Vincent's needs and goals, worrying about such implementations details
may be putting the cart before the horse right now, or maybe exactly the
sort of information he is seeking?


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