On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 11:49 -0400, Nathan Hamiel wrote: > > Let's talk about the inadequacies of vim as a development tool on Twitter. > > > > Or look at how to use vim for PHP programming: > > > > http://www.slideshare.net/mobile/andreizm/vim-for-php-programmers-pdf > > > > Great point. Let's hack something together rather than use something that is > purpose built for a job. The hobbyist mentality can actually be > a detriment in an enterprise environment. This is just one of those > situations.
I really don't think Kyle's point of view or insight comes from anything hobbyist in nature. Not sure he even crosses paths with many or any that are into Linux as a hobby short of maybe at a LUG meeting. To my knowledge Kyle its pretty much only exposed enterprise environment, and not even touching SMB stuff. We have seen things quite differently at times being on opposite sides of the spectrum. Not a bad thing, but clearly a result of his time spent in the enterprise world ;) Most anyone I know who codes or does stuff in VI or Emacs I would not consider a hobbyist by any means. Typically hobbyists won't waste their time with such PITA to use editors, usually only the 1337. They tend to use such tools because they can do more at a much faster pace than with an IDE. In fact many turn VI/VIM and Emacs into an IDE and damn near an OS for some points of view :) While I tend to use an IDE I mostly do that for code completion and other things. I am not a fan of RAD stuff, doesn't always write clean code thats easy to debug/read. I am happy most times with anything that does syntax highlighting and icing is usually code completion, hints, etc. I tend to use an IDE as a glorified text editor. But at times I will edit stuff with nano on the server if its minor. Though only after doing the same in development. Direct changes to stuff on production done via nano is only done on rare occasion and very minor edits. But guess how I make most changes to the wiki? Guess what editor I used to configure the wiki and other things? Think smaller than tiny :) -- William L. Thomson Jr. Obsidian-Studios, Inc. http://www.obsidian-studios.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- Archive http://marc.info/?l=jaxlug-list&r=1&w=2 RSS Feed http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml Unsubscribe [email protected]
