Hello friends,

In case you are all wondering where I have been, its been finals and work, and 
life that has kept me away.  If I should miss you guys for todays reunion, I'll 
bemthere next meeting, but I will be there next meeting.  

ralph

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> > If someone said they were using VI for development there are a couple
> > > of assumptions I can make.
> > 
> > Shame on you, you should know better about assumptions :)
> > 
> 
> Sorry but it's experience from working with literally 100's of
> development shops all over the world and everything from financial to
> media. I can tell from reading a statement of work most of the time how
> much experience development shops have.
> 
> 
> > > 1 is that they don't have any defined standards or standards are not
> > > being enforced. 2 they probably don't have many defined processes for
> > > development in general. This is bad all the way around.
> > 
> > Why can't a company have standards based around VI/VIM or Emacs? What
> > if the company had a process but it just included VI?
> > 
> 
> They just don't. They could try I suppose, but the amount of work
> involved in getting configurations together for these tools is
> prohibitive for them. Not to mention it's more work that developers have
> to do. Most shops nowadays are pretty diverse and mostly overworked. So
> you may have developers in India that you also need to deal with as well
> as more developers dealing with more than one language. By using a
> flexible IDE you can give them one tool for the job. Many developers you
> don't want them messing with their systems. Trust me on this ;) It's not
> that it's hard or even difficult, it just is something else. You'd be
> surprised.
> 
> 
> > Don't get me wrong I use an IDE. But I am not surprised when working in
> > the FOSS world when I come across programmers that use, or code that
> > was written with VI/VIM or Emacs. I see it to often for it to be any
> > sort of shock or surprise. Sometimes I feel like my skills are below
> > par, because I am not coding in them or doing things as rapid as
> > others. Much less with the quality that others produce with the crappy
> > tools ;)
> 
> 
> You have to start thinking globally outside just the FOSS world. That's
> not how a majority of organizations out there operate. For better or
> worse right? ;)
> 
> -- 
> *Nathan Hamiel*
> http://hexsec.com
> <http://hexsec.com>http://twitter.com/nathanhamiel
> blog: www.neohaxor.org

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