Here's an interesting question, are there more or fewer beginner-level developers who develop in ColdFusion? I think there were a lot of people who wanted to build web applications in the mad rush where everyone wanted a web presence beyond static pages and that's where you saw a lot of the CF beginners make their mark. I think that mad rush is over and a lot of people are looking at issues like security, scalability and performance where you need competent developers and people who are knowledgable with IT infrastructure and architecture. I think it's harder to make the argument that we're having to deal with beginner-level code and issues of that ilk. If we're seeing more stable and well-architected CF applications, I think we'll see more comparisons between development languages if the applications were built similarly but the server and development platform are different.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Eric Knipp Sent: Sun 11/5/2006 7:17 PM To: Dallas/Fort Worth ColdFusion User Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [DFW CFUG] Why Cold Fusion vs Java? vs PHP? vs .ASP? etc. To change the tack a little bit. I agree that its very possible to make poorly performing CF websites. Maybe this is harder to do in .NET (more idiot proof?). Assuming skilled CF developers leveraging best practices (ie, using a framework, breaking up presentation and business logic, utilizing a database access layer, making use of caching techniques where appropriate, etc), is there really a big performance problem with CF apps? I ask because from what I've seen, CF can handle "enterprise class" websites if the sites are well-architected. Hearing someone say that CF won't scale to handle a big load makes me wonder if we're just talking about a poorly written app. Unfortunately because CF is so easy to learn, there's a lot of poorly written apps out there, which probably doesn't help the case of the CF-friendly developer very much. Beginners can pick CF up quick and produce something fairly impressive-looking in a short period of time, but that application isn't one that should be thrown into the breach for the long term (imho). I'm just wondering what technical merit the argument that "CF won't scale like .NET" really has. Eric On 11/5/06, Christopher Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hmm.... I checked out the website... it doesn't instill much confidence. > It'd be nice to see the sort of community support for an open source > CFML parser like there is for CFML and BD. I think this is an > interesting discussion. I don't think it's gone sour. Where do the .Net > proponents feel that Flex apps fit into this discussion? > > Chris > > Phillip Holmes wrote: > > There is one other "knock off" that I am aware of. It isn't > > opensource. However, it is much cheaper. > > > > http://www.railo.ch/en/ > > > > --Phil > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Reply to DFWCFUG: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/listinfo/list > > List Archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40list.dfwcfug.org/ > > http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40dfwcfug.org/ > > DFWCFUG Sponsors: www.HostMySite.com www.teksystems.com/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Reply to DFWCFUG: > [email protected] > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/listinfo/list > List Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40list.dfwcfug.org/ > http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40dfwcfug.org/ > DFWCFUG Sponsors: > www.HostMySite.com > www.teksystems.com/ > _______________________________________________ Reply to DFWCFUG: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists1.safesecureweb.com/mailman/listinfo/list List Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40list.dfwcfug.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/list%40dfwcfug.org/ DFWCFUG Sponsors: www.HostMySite.com www.teksystems.com/
