About that made in the USA thing, the NSA has deals with overseas companies as well...
Plus, the GCHQ and several other foreign spy agency's have done similar things, so if you starting asking, you discover that the major governments are trying to do this and have succeed more often than we would like. Also, the whole "We have to ask to ask the question to get the denial on record" only matters for the government or people with lots of money. The Government can sue you/arrest you for a lie, but do "you" have enough money to pay for lawsuits against a company? Most lawyers want money upfront unless you have clear suit against a company with lots of money. When was the last (or even first time) that a company was sued and lost to a private party for something like this, outside of class action lawsuits? Walter On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Eugen Leitl <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:42:31AM -0500, Adam Thompson wrote: > > > Argh. Anyone who answered "Yes" to your question (correctly, mind you) > would immediately be committing a federal crime. > > All assuming the company in question resides in the US, or has > significant presence in the US. There is, of course, considerable > strong-arming and informal co-operation going on behind the > scenes, so geography is not exactly a good protection. > > I've personally given up on any commercial software, and > moved to purely community-built tools, and will take considerable > protection now that we know that Ft. Meade is in the business > of hacking end users and companies. > > > Considering the consequences, no-one in their right mind would ever > confirm that they had been approached or received a NSL. > > Which makes asking the question quite irrelevant. > > The question is useful, since it produced this thread. > As I suggested, if you're not trusting pfSense, you can > always manually verify the rules generated by it, and > load it into a pf-speaking device you consider trustable. > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list > -- The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis
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