On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:00 AM, RB <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Volker Kuhlmann
> <[email protected]> > This is a laughable argument!
>
> I'm not here to argue, you are.  More specifically, you're here to
> press your personal point for open switch firmware.  Your paranoia,
> it's showing.
> _______________________________________________



All of this arguing aside and all of these points made I still cannot wait
until there is nothing stopping me from examining the code that runs on my
switches.  I know some of these is off topic but I am going to post this
anyways:


[email protected] wrote:

"Open Source is more about sharing than security."

Open source is way more then both of these topics but even in the sentence
that you wrote, you even agree that it could be a little bit of both.  It
seems like groups are moving towards openness in general and it is going to
be really cool when I can cheaply take something like Open vSwitch, some
hardware, and an open vSwitch accelerator (
http://www.6wind.com/products/6wind-virtual-accelerator/) and forget about
Cisco, Juniper and the lot.

It sucks, it really does.  I would think Open Source is more about lowering
the entry level for any topic.  It is easier to audit if you need it
secure, it is easier to work with when you need to share or bits and pieces
of it, etc.

When I was a child I wanted something like the raspberry pi so very bad, or
an Arduino.  The closest thing I could find in my environment at the time
was about $400+ and the programming software was very proprietary, the
device was limited in its capabilities, it was closer to SCADA.

I do not think anyone here wants to argue Some Company vs OpenSource, when
you look at the fabric switches that Cisco any other companies offer it is
obvious how money can motivate a company/organization to build new tech.
But then take a look at something like the Raspberry Pi and see where it is
and what it is doing.  Part of OpenSource is removing the grip the
companies have on these technologies and giving it away, this especially
helps when you live in an environment when the bar for getting things that
are not OpenSource is high for whatever reasons.

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

Your paranoia, it's showing.

"Paranoia is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety
or fear, often to the point of delusion and irrationality."

If you believe there are not malicious actors trying to influence and hack
technologies for there own benefit, I do not know what to say, but someone
not trusting some software does not sound all that crazy.
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