> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Hucklesby
> Sent: Friday, 29 September 2006 2:40 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [WSG] The usability of a frame-style layout
> 
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:15:47 +1000, Andreas Boehmer 
> [Addictive Media] wrote:
> > [...]
> > However, with css we now have the ability to imitate frames in an
> > accessible and search-engine friendly way for browsers that support
> > it. So the question comes back to usability (and maybe aesthetics):
> > wouldn't it be more user-friendly to always make the primary
> > navigation available to users, no matter what part of the page they
> > are looking at?
> >
> Interesting concept Andreas. Your idea has already been realized
> to a degree in Opera.
> 
> Opera has a "navigation bar" that users can turn on or off. It sits 
> across the top of a page, and is populated by LINK elements in the 
> HEAD section of a document.

Do you happen to know any sites that work with this concept? So any sites
that have LINK elements in the HEAD section that would show up in Opera?

> You may also be interested in PPK's revamped site. See for example
> the "Blogs" page, and activate the "show site navigation" link on
> the left. Is this what you had in mind? -

Exactly. Well, I think there must be a better way to design it, so it
doesn't overlap important content, but in the long run this is what I was
thinking about. I guess I shouldn't have titled it "frame-style" - it took
people off track with the discussion. But this is exactly the idea - why not
provide navigation at all times to the user (in a standards compliant way of
course)?



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