Wow, that's kinda harsh - and at Christmas!!

I think you've got it backwards. Those of us who aspire to live in a standards-based www are not fascists trying to impose some arbitrary and unreasonable set of conditions. We just want our stuff to "just work". Our fight is not with users or clients, or even our competitors, but with monopolist organizations who use their flouting of standards as a weapon against their competitors. (Who could he mean??)

If you were a car mechanic, for example, how would you feel about having to buy a complete set of tools for use with each manufacturer, or even worse each model? Pretty unhappy, I'd guess.

And is anyone actually charging more specifically to write standards compliant code? Is it more expensive to do so?

Or is that skill part of the whole package that differentiates a competent coder from the hacks?

Andrew Maben

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On Dec 21, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Barney Carroll wrote:

The search engine thing is pretty much a lie.

People are begging Google to factor w3c validity into the relevance of their results, but there's no good reason they should - and I personally believe this is a bit sinister.

Invalid code should succeed or fail on its own merits, not because standardistas bully 'validity' into practice.

I hold Google in very high esteem for their complete magnanimity over standards while maintaining (some might say as a result) the highest elegance and popularity.

If human beings or machines start complaining that this irreverence is in any practical way detrimental to their experience, then standardistas should flock to the rescue. Until then, the notion cannot help but smell mafiosi - protection racket kind of stuff (- You need this 'help' I'm giving you. I know it seems inconvenient and expensive but you really do. - This really doesn't look like help to me. - I don't remember asking you a goddamn thing).

...

I sympathise with the client: if I can't justify how it's useful to them, then there's no reason they should be bothered with it. If I can't justify it to myself, there's no reason I should bother myself with it. This is the ultimate opportunity to question yourself and work out whether you adhere to standards because of their actual virtue or simply because you like rules, big crowds, and being better than other people.

Regards,
Barney


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