My understanding is that screen-readers will place an audible emphasis on <em> and <strong> tags, but do nothing for <i> and <b>. When i'm reading a sentence that has latin phrases such as /as nauseum/, I don't put an audible emphasis on those words, or any emphasis at all in fact. The latin words should be semantically different from the surrounding words but I don't believe <em> is the right tag. A span tag with an appropriate class seems the best choice to me.

Similarly when i'm reading out somebody's academic qualifications i'm actually likely to put /more/ emphasis on the type of qualification than the institution from which it was obtained, this is opposite to the recognised visual representation.

- Andy



Rob Kirton wrote:
Patrick
You may have misunderstood my approach, or we may agree to differ Katrina's remark was "My final answer is to place it in spans, such as <span class="species"
lang="latin">Echium plantagineum</span> because:"
I am suggesting that an <em> should be used with the same class. That is if she so wishes or as convention dictates, latin emphasis can be made italic and globally changed if required later. Other forms of emphasis could be applied for non latin phrases / other purposes. I see it presentation of the semantic meaning and as such would not use a purely presentational element such as <i> --
Regards

- Rob

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On 18/01/07, *Patrick H. Lauke* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Quoting Rob Kirton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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    > Andrew
    >
    > I believe that Kat is correct in her approach, though would
    suggest that the
    > class is applied to an <em> tag set, therefore will still be
    shown as being
    > employed even if CSS is disabled for whatever reason.

    Noooo...if it's not an emphasis, don't mark it up as emphasis.

    End of the day: if you're really after showing a visual style even if
    CSS is unavailable or disabled, heck, stick with presentational
    markup
    and use <i> then, and don't abuse <em> where it's not appropriate.

    P
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