Andrew I believe that Kat is correct in her approach, though would suggest that the class is applied to an <em> tag set, therefore will still be shown as being employed even if CSS is disabled for whatever reason.
-- Regards - Rob Raising web standards : http://ele.vation.co.uk Linking in with others : http://linkedin.com/in/robkirton On 18/01/07, Andrew Maben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks Kat! I've been following this discussion and feeling like a cat at Wimbledon, following the points back and forth... For me this is the definitive match point! Now do you have an equally incisive answer for <sup> and <sub>? Andrew Maben 109b SE 4th Av Gainesville FL 32601 Cell: 352-870-6661 http://www.andrewmaben.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *"In a well designed user interface, the user should not need ** instructions."* On Jan 17, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Katrina wrote: 2) Language usage such as Latin as this is a long standing convention in print and must be retained (thus not styled via CSS). Example: <i lang="la">Lorem ispum</i> I actually come across this situation from time to time and I have ummed and ahhed over what the best thing to do is. My final answer is to place it in spans, such as <span class="species" lang="latin">Echium plantagineum</span> because: 1. The span offers flexibility: I have air-head moments where I decide these things should be italic, and bold, and in a different font, and then I decide the background should be a different colour. I can never predict what sort of air-head moments I have from year to year, and CSS allows me to cover for these moments quite easily. So I can change them to these stupid settings and then quickly change them back again :) 2. The web is essentially about semantic text. The audience reading your pages may not necessarily be human, and you need to open up your data to be available to your audience. Placing these sorts of semantic data in your code opens it up. The web is not about visual presentation, but about data. This is a really scary but powerful concept, that I believe will become even more important in the years to come. 3. All in code is evaluated by Google (a non-human audience member), and that includes the class name of the span. Your quality rating goes up, and SEOs could say more, but I believe also your listing for 'species Echium plantagineum' goes up because of the inclusion of the word 'species':) So my argument is if you find you need to present it visually different from surrounding text, ask yourself why. Why is this special, and then mark it up with spans using that speciality. Kat ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
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