> Ok, let's take <img src="linebreak.gif" alt="Horizontal rule" />. In
> visual media it will be horizontal rule, aural browser will announce
> it as "image: horizontal rule". Is it any worse than just "Horizontal
> rule"?

First, move beyond screen reading technology - web accessibility is way more
than web pages for the blind.

Believe or not, I am aware of it.

Your suggestion of using an image with the alt
text of "Horizontal rule" is bordering on silly.  It harkens back to the
days of <img src="spacer.gif" alt="*">... And how many times have we
encountered that in the past.  It is a strange suggestion for a list that is
supposed to be about Web Standards.

If was not my suggestion. I just wanted to say, that <hr> is not that
better than <img ...>.
Sorry if my English is too bad to make it clear.


You want a visually rich method of supplying a delimitating separator - we
get that.  In the interest of accessibility, how do you extend that meaning
- as I again argue there *is* a meaning implied for it to be on your
visually rendered page.

If I want that - I get it with CSS, styling one of the sections that
are supposed to be
separated. In this case HR is simply redundant in my eyes.


 The point
here is: That visual separator indicated that there was a break.  Full stop.
To fail to acknowledge this is simply being contrary, and not really adding
anything to the discussion.

No. I'd say it this way: there was a break which was made visual by
using separator.
That is - it is break, shift in thought, whatever that comes first.
Visual/aural representation
of it comes second. Since I believe CSS is capable of rendering this
visual representation,
I maintain the point that HR is redundant.

Hey, if I could find *ONE* commercially available screen reading technology
that supported aural style sheets, then I would agree that *sometimes* this
would be the way to go.  Please name me one (just one) technology that
supports aural CSS.

http://dotjay.co.uk/tests/css/aural-speech/ - so we must wait for the
results of JAWS test
to show up.

In any case, I still think that even with the lack of support for the
aural CSS there are better ways
to indicate break/separation than saying "Horizontal rule". It just
does not sound right to me (pun intended).

Thanks for your thoughts, but I am out of this discussion :)

Regards,
Rimantas
--
http://rimantas.com/


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