i agree with the logical separation. that is what i would like to show. i guess a screen reader would let the operator know that there is a division of information on the page. this is what i want to accomplish with the note; to let screen readers know that this is an aside to what the main content on the page is.
so how do i make the hr black in ff and opera? with the borders like one poster advised? i had this problem once before and can't remember how i solved the problem, but i don't think it was using borders on the hr. the test page that is up has the css border and just below it is the hr at the top of the page; and they are above on the note. in ff and opera it looks like a sand-colored divot on the page, but in ie it's a black line. there is nothing in the index of eric meyer's 3rd edition css definitive guide about hrs and styling them, so i'm a bit perplexed at the moment. dwain On 2/19/07, Hassan Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dwain Alford wrote: > as long as i'm good to go with what i have, away with the hrs. Uh, realizing, I hope, that the prior poster may be wrong :-) Your HR will show a logical separation exists without depending on presentational styling via CSS. But I won't see your pretty /non-semantic/ DIV border using Lynx, for example... FWIW! > On 2/19/07, *Lucien Stals* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > An HR element is effectively presentation markup. It's a *visual* > break in > the page. This means that if you are working towards proper semantic > markup, > you shouldn't be using the HR element. > > Styling a DIV is just fine. The DIV can be used to semantically > indicate a > section of text and may contain several P tags, for example. Then > you could > style to DIV by adding a border. > > Now the structure is semantic, and the visual effect (the horizontal > line) > is in the CSS where it belongs. -- Hassan Schroeder ----------------------------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
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