True.

I guess the question is if you think a horizontal line is important to the
content or just a visual element.

I tend to think of them as visual elements, therefore decorative and best
done with CSS. To me, if you don't see the ruled line in Lynx then it
doesn't matter. You aren't missing out on anything important. The text is
still readable and no meaning has been lost. No damage done.

But if you think the HR is important to the content and adds to the users
understanding of the text, then of course you should use it :)

It's the same with images. If an image is decorative, then use CSS to
display it. Somebody with a text browser won't even know it was supposed to
be there. But they won't have missed out on anything.

If, on the other hand, the image adds meaning, then it needs to be right in
the HTML so the Lynx using user knows it's there and has the option to
download it.

Just my 2c :)

Lucien.


On 20/2/07 9:43 AM, "Hassan Schroeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dwain Alford wrote:
> 
>> as long as i'm good to go with what i have, away with the hrs.
> 
> Uh, realizing, I hope, that the prior poster may be wrong :-)
> 
> Your HR will show a logical separation exists without depending on
> presentational styling via CSS.
> 
> But I won't see your pretty /non-semantic/ DIV border using Lynx,
> for example...
> 
> FWIW!
> 
>> On 2/19/07, *Lucien Stals* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>     An HR element is effectively presentation markup. It's a *visual*
>>     break in
>>     the page. This means that if you are working towards proper semantic
>>     markup,
>>     you shouldn't be using the HR element.
>> 
>>     Styling a DIV is just fine. The DIV can be used to semantically
>>     indicate a
>>     section of text and may contain several P tags, for example. Then
>>     you could
>>     style to DIV by adding a border.
>> 
>>     Now the structure is semantic, and the visual effect (the horizontal
>>     line)
>>     is in the CSS where it belongs.

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