You think they are BS? And your “probably” somehow trumps real data and 
analysis. Have a nice day ☺ !

Nile Gilmanov
Systems Administrator
Wabash National Corporation
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | O: 
765.772.2691 | M: 765.414.7402 | F: 765.449.5381

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Juelich, Adam
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [mssms] SCEP poll

It's not a replacement for Client Firewalls, Network Firewalls, and Web 
Filters.  A lot of other products build some of that functionality in so if you 
are handling it in other ways I think it is perfectly capable in most 
scenarios.  I go through those 'AV Tests' each year and I think they are BS for 
the most part.  Much of that is probably stuff developed by McAfee and Symantec 
to show that they are superior in some way.



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Adam Juelich

Pulaski Community School District<http://www.pulaskischools.org>

Client Management Specialist

920-822-6075

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Gilmanov, Nile 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
I am surprised nobody mentioned that SCEP ahem lacks very much compared to 
other real-world products.

http://chart.av-comparatives.org/awards_by_vendor.php?venID=11 It mostly 
doesn’t make any security lists and last awards MS got was in 2012.

Does it generally detect and clean stuff up yeah I agree it that it does. My 
personal beef with it, is a decentralized storage of quarantined files… if I 
need to dynamically analyze malware to create IOCs for it, then I am stuck 
chasing the end-client. Even then there are no good tools to unpack the 
samples, other than letting your own app do that… thus you must be running SCEP 
to unpack the stuff. Pretty counter-intuitive compared to Trend.


Nile Gilmanov
Systems Administrator
Wabash National Corporation
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | O: 
765.772.2691<tel:765.772.2691> | M: 765.414.7402<tel:765.414.7402> | F: 
765.449.5381<tel:765.449.5381>

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Ed Aldrich
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 2:12 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCEP poll

☺


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 1:23 PM
To: '[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>'
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCEP poll

You sound offended, yet you knew he was talking about you?  ☺

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 10:15 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCEP poll

“The Detractor”… Is that my new name? Just because I don’t LOVE all things MS???

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Mott
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 11:16 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCEP poll

I only saw one email from the detractor!  Amazing!

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:11 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] SCEP poll

That likely has been asked before.

How many of you, using CM, also use SCEP on clients?

I’m not looking for reasons, a simple yes/no will do.
Maybe you can throw in some client numbers?

I’ll start:

Not decided yet  ☺, 1000 clients

Thanks, Roland



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