Thanks, Jason, for explaining that a bit more intelligently than I did! ;-P
*-----------------------------------------------* *Adam Juelich* Pulaski Community School District <http://www.pulaskischools.org> Client Management Specialist 920-822-6075 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Jason Sandys <[email protected]> wrote: > The “real” data analysis here is the part that’s not accurate. It’s real > artificial data. The tests detect against theoretical and not real world > threats. When you look at the actual numbers of what the products protect > against that actually real-world and in the wild, SCEP rise to the very top > (top 3 I think). Benchmarks are great to prove theories but prove nothing > about real-world performance. > > > > Having said that, isn’t choice great? Aren’t we all glad we’re not stuck > with IE6? > > > > J > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gilmanov, Nile > *Sent:* Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:38 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] SCEP poll > > > > You think they are BS? And your “probably” somehow trumps real data and > analysis. Have a nice day J ! > > > > *Nile Gilmanov* > > Systems Administrator > > Wabash National Corporation > > [email protected] | O: 765.772.2691 | M: 765.414.7402 | F: > 765.449.5381 > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Juelich, Adam > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:27 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] SCEP poll > > > > It's not a replacement for Client Firewalls, Network Firewalls, and Web > Filters. A lot of other products build some of that functionality in so if > you are handling it in other ways I think it is perfectly capable in most > scenarios. I go through those 'AV Tests' each year and I think they are BS > for the most part. Much of that is probably stuff developed by McAfee and > Symantec to show that they are superior in some way. > > > > > *-----------------------------------------------* > > *Adam Juelich* > > Pulaski Community School District <http://www.pulaskischools.org> > > Client Management Specialist > > 920-822-6075 > > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Gilmanov, Nile < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I am surprised nobody mentioned that *SCEP ahem lacks very much* compared > to other real-world products. > > > > http://chart.av-comparatives.org/awards_by_vendor.php?venID=11 It mostly > doesn’t make any security lists and last awards MS got was in 2012. > > > > Does it generally detect and clean stuff up yeah I agree it that it does. > My personal beef with it, is a decentralized storage of quarantined files… > if I need to dynamically analyze malware to create IOCs for it, then I am > stuck chasing the end-client. Even then there are no good tools to unpack > the samples, other than letting your own app do that… thus you must be > running SCEP to unpack the stuff. Pretty counter-intuitive compared to > Trend. > > > > > > *Nile Gilmanov* > > Systems Administrator > > Wabash National Corporation > > [email protected] | O: 765.772.2691 | M: 765.414.7402 | F: > 765.449.5381 > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ed Aldrich > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 3, 2015 2:12 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] SCEP poll > > > > J > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 1:23 PM > *To:* '[email protected]' > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] SCEP poll > > > > You sound offended, yet you knew he was talking about you? J > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Marcum, John > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 10:15 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] SCEP poll > > > > “The Detractor”… Is that my new name? Just because I don’t LOVE all things > MS??? > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Michael Mott > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 3, 2015 11:16 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] SCEP poll > > > > I only saw one email from the detractor! Amazing! > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Roland Janus > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:11 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [mssms] SCEP poll > > > > That likely has been asked before. > > > > How many of you, using CM, also use SCEP on clients? > > > > I’m not looking for reasons, a simple yes/no will do. > > Maybe you can throw in some client numbers? > > > > I’ll start: > > > > Not decided yet J, 1000 clients > > > > Thanks, Roland > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is > addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this > message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this > email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This > email and any attachments may be privileged and/or confidential. 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