SOA records are used per DNS Zone.  To over-simplify, your sub-domains only
need SOA records if they perform their own authoritative DNS - apart from
your Top Level Domain.

--
Espi


On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:44 AM, David McSpadden <[email protected]> wrote:

> Do I need an SOA on the sub domains?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *David McSpadden
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2015 10:27 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: ptr records
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kennedy, Jim
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2015 10:19 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: ptr records
>
>
>
> I would leave them A’s. Saves the client an extra lookup.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *David McSpadden
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2015 10:04 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: ptr records
>
>
>
> Yep using it and kloth.net both.
>
> Just one more question should I make all the non mail.imcu.com CNAME’s
> instead of A record’s for...74??
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Kennedy, Jim
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2015 9:58 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: ptr records
>
>
>
> Yep, no ptr for 192.171.14.74.  At least you know what it is, now it is
> just the struggle to get the folks to fix it up.
>
>
>
> http://mxtoolbox.com/domain is a great way to check all this out.  If you
> plug in mail.imcu.com it will let you cycle through finding problems.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *David McSpadden
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2015 9:54 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: ptr records
>
>
>
> No worries.
>
> We purchased a class c.
>
> We migrated from our ISP to our own class c addresses.
>
> Web Solutions at Fiserv hosts our website and offers DNS management.
>
> They are responsible for our DNS updates.
>
> Looks to me like they have not removed some PTR’s and have not added some
> PTR’s.
>
> Once I have a clean Zone I’ll let everyone know.
>
> And we can see about any other issues that may be out there.
>
> What I want to see is this:
>
>
> imcu.com.
>
> @                                                            86400
> IN           SOA pdns206.ultradns.com. bill\.krause.fiserv.com. (
>
>
> 2014081271         ;Serial
>
>
> 10800                    ;Refresh
>
>
> 3600                       ;Retry
>
>
> 2592000                                ;Expire
>
>
> 86400                    ;Minimum
>
>
> )
>
> @                                                            86400
> IN           NS          pdns206.ultradns.org.
>
> @                                                            86400
> IN           NS          pdns206.ultradns.com.
>
> @                                                            86400
> IN           NS          pdns206.ultradns.net.
>
> @                                                            86400
> IN           NS          pdns206.ultradns.biz.
>
> @                                                            86400
> IN           A             12.145.177.146
>
> @                                                            86400
> IN           MX         10 mail.imcu.com.
>
> @                                                            86400
> IN           TXT         "v=spf1 ip4:184.72.242.195 ip4:192.171.14.74 ~all"
>
> @                                                            86400
> IN           TXT         "\"v=spf1 ip4:184.72.242.195 ip4:192.171.14.74
> ~all\""
>
> www                                                     86400
> IN           A             12.145.177.146
>
> mail                                                        600
> IN           A             192.171.14.74
>
> autodiscover                                      600         IN
> A             192.171.14.74
>
> legacymail                                           600
> IN           A             192.171.14.74
>
> outlook                                                600
> IN           A             192.171.14.74
>
> secure                                                  600
> IN           A             192.171.14.73
>
> ftp                                                          600
> IN           A             192.171.14.72
>
> vpn                                                        86400
> IN           A             38.109.185.130
>
> m                                                            86400
> IN           CNAME ml-http-generic-300922534.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com.
>
> 74.14.171.192.in-addr.arpa          86400    IN           PTR
> mail.imcu.com.
>
> 72.14.171.192.in-addr.arpa          86400    IN           PTR
> ftp.imcu.com.
>
> 73.14.171.192.in-addr.arpa          86400    IN           PTR
> secure.imcu.com.
>
> 130.185.109.38.in-addr.arpa        86400    IN           PTR
> VPN.IMCU.COM.
>
>
>
> But the PTR’s are not there  at all and these old PTR’s are still hanging
> out there:
>
> 193.185.109.38.in-addr.arpa        86400    IN           PTR
> mail.IMCU.COM.
>
> 194.185.109.38.in-addr.arpa        86400    IN           PTR
> board.IMCU.COM.
>
> 196.185.109.38.in-addr.arpa        86400    IN           PTR
> ftp.IMCU.COM.
>
> 193.185.109.38.in-addr.arpa        86400    IN           PTR
> mx1.IMCU.COM.
>
> 206.185.109.38.in-addr.arpa        86400    IN           PTR
> secure.IMCU.COM.
>
>
>
> ATT.net, Comcast.net, sbcglobal.net, and Aol.com are all bouncing my
> outbound email.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Kennedy, Jim
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2015 9:44 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: ptr records
>
>
>
> Who owns/controls the IP addresses?  That is who has to do the PTR
> records.  What is the sending IP address?
>
>
>
> Sorry, I was out of touch this weekend so I didn’t get through the whole
> thread of you issue…..
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *David McSpadden
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2015 9:41 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: ptr records
>
>
>
> It might be since it doesn’t appear that my new PTR records are there.
>
> It’s like the company I am using did the A, CNAME, MX records but did not
> remove the old or add the new.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Kennedy, Jim
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2015 9:37 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: ptr records
>
>
>
> The old PTR records won’t cause this issue.  Consider the process that is
> happening……
>
>
>
> You HELO mailout.imcu.com and connect with from 192.168.1.1
>
>
>
> The receiving server looks at the A record for mailout.imcu.com…it must
> match 192.168.1.1
>
> It then looks at the PTR for 192.168.1.1 it must return mailout.imcu.com
>
>
>
> They are not looking at your old PTR records, they don’t even know about
> them anymore.  That isn’t your issue.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *David McSpadden
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2015 9:31 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: ptr records
>
>
>
> Or maybe just maybe I need to ask them to show me the old PTR’s we
> migrated from.
>
> Just happened to think this morning that maybe the old PTR’s were out
> there.
>
> They are right there like always.
>
> Have asked them to remove the old PTR for the old IP’s.
>
> You would think after this many years I would know to ask that type of
> question.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *HELP_PC
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2015 12:50 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: ptr records
>
>
>
> As long as you have a A record recorded for your domain the ISP should
> have a subsequent PTR record
>
>
>
> GuidoElia
> HELPPC-HELPPCSERVICE
> ------------------------------
>
> *Da:* [email protected] [[email protected]] per
> conto di David McSpadden [[email protected]]
> *Inviato:* domenica 6 dicembre 2015 17.59
> *A:* [email protected]; [email protected]
> *Oggetto:* [NTSysADM] RE: ptr records
>
> Thank you all
>
> The PTR records are still not out there.
>
> Gonna be a busy day Monday.
>
>
>
> AT&T and Comcast are refusing our traffic.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]]
> on behalf of Brian Desmond [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 05, 2015 6:17 PM
> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: ptr records
>
> *No, they’re not necessary. *
>
>
>
> *Thanks,*
>
> *Brian Desmond*
>
>
>
> *w – 312.625.1438 <312.625.1438> | c – 312.731.3132 <312.731.3132>*
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *David McSpadden
> *Sent:* Friday, December 4, 2015 1:55 PM
> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] ptr records
>
>
>
> Do I need PTR records for Legacymail, outlook, and autodiscover?
>
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