Cool!

That's what I expected.  Won't they help by ensuring that clients don't have to 
get content direct from DP?

I have seen cases where the RB has freaked content going from site server to 
site server and CM has not been able to cope but I just wanted to verify their 
use on the DP to client comms issue.

> On 2 Mar 2016, at 21:42, Marcum, John <jmar...@babc.com> wrote:
> 
> Okay… I think I get it now. All the RB does, or at least it did when I used 
> them years ago, is cache content so that one PC pulls it over the WAN and the 
> others don’t have to. If they still work that way they will not harm nor 
> benefit your CM environment. If they are doing more than they used to I can’t 
> speak to that because I haven’t touched one in a very long time.
>  
> When I used them I replaced DP’s with them.
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>         John Marcum
>                MCITP, MCTS, MCSA
>                Desktop Architect
>    Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP
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> From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] 
> On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart
> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 2:52 PM
> To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: RE: [mssms] Use of Riverbeds at remote offices
>  
> Well, each remote office has both a Server 2012R2 machine acting as a DP and 
> a Riverbed appliance.  The appliances optimize all WAN traffic (not just SCCM 
> but standard file share, VOIP, etc.) between the branch office and home 
> office.  So, when we send out a new package from the primary site server to 
> the remote DPs, they pass through the riverbeds and that traffic is optimized 
> as well.  Now I know SCCM 2012R2 compresses traffic heading to remote DPs 
> where SCCM 2007 did not, so its not as important now as it was then, but 
> since the Riverbeds are there and just optimizing everything, including SCCM, 
> I was just saying it hasn’t caused any issues.  We didn’t put them for SCCM 
> specifically, more for standard file access and Citrix access from remote 
> offices.
> Ryan
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> From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] 
> On Behalf Of Marcum, John
> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 1:12 PM
> To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: RE: [mssms] Use of Riverbeds at remote offices
>  
> When you say “behind 19 DP’s” I don’t follow you.. Back when I did use 
> Riverbeds, which was on SMS 2003 I should say, we used them in-place of DP’s. 
> In very small offices the cached on the riverbed typically would suffice for 
> content when doing patches etc. Again, now there are much better ways to 
> accomplish this goal. i.e. Nomad
>  
>         John Marcum
>                MCITP, MCTS, MCSA
>                Desktop Architect
>    Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP
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> From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] 
> On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart
> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 2:07 PM
> To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: RE: [mssms] Use of Riverbeds at remote offices
>  
> Actually we use Riverbeds behind about 19 DPs at remote offices and it works 
> just fine.  We use HTTP, not HTTPS traffic for our DPs (yes I know and that 
> will change) so can’t comment on the certs but its been  fine.  We did run 
> into issues with the Riverbeds with the old CM07 environment and had to put 
> bypasses on all the remote DPs but that hasn’t come up again in 2012R2.  So 
> yes, someone does use Riverbeds, they still exist.
> Ryan
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> From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] 
> On Behalf Of Marcum, John
> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 12:57 PM
> To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: RE: [mssms] Use of Riverbeds at remote offices
>  
> Jeeze… that post was 5 years ago! Nobody uses Riverbeds anymore. When I did 
> say that I liked Riverbeds it was only as a WAN accelerator not anything 
> more. It sounds like you are trying to run a DP on the appliance. If that’s 
> the case I’m unfamiliar with that use case, probably because as I said…Nobody 
> uses riverbeds anymore. J
>  
> If I had a branch office scenario where I needed a DP and I couldn’t have a 
> DP I’d buy nomad and be done with it. That is simple, cheap and well proven 
> technology. 
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>         John Marcum
>                MCITP, MCTS, MCSA
>                Desktop Architect
>    Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP
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> From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] 
> On Behalf Of Jason Wallace
> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 10:29 AM
> To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: [mssms] Use of Riverbeds at remote offices
>  
> Hi there folks
>  
> I was wondering if someone would have some detail on using Riverbed 
> Steelheads with CM Agents please?
>  
> We are working on a CM design with DPs at a head office location hosting 
> BranchCache and clients at remote offices.  Between them we have a number of 
> SteelHeads and I am keen to find out more about how this scenario stands up.
>  
> The customer only supports Riverbedding HTTPS traffic so the assumption is 
> that we will be supplying the web server certs of the DPs so that they can 
> get at the data while in transit in order to cache it
>  
> As I have been BinGoogling I have found that Mr Marcum is a fan but Mr Sandys 
> is not
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> https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/systemcenter/en-US/d9ced859-9fe9-4210-9418-3b3f5e02be45/riverbed-scenario?forum=configmgrgeneral
>  
> I also note that RiOS 8.5 introduced support for BranchCache in hosted mode.  
> Now I know that CM does not support Hosted mode, running in distributed mode 
> but should the customer implement this does anyone know if the Riverbeds then 
> publish a service connection point?
>  
> Best Wishes
> 
> Jason
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