Thanks.  100% true story + federal investigation.  State lines were
crossed, and millions of dollars were at stake.

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Espi


On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Dave Lum <l...@ochin.org> wrote:

> That’s a perfect example Michael.
>
>
>
> Or, let’s say I am in IT at Target, maybe later I move into IT at an HVAC
> company that has VPN access to Target (IT guys working at companies that do
> business with their former employers? Never happens right?). Maybe my PC at
> the HVAC place get compromised and since Target never disabled my account
> and I use the same password at %newjob% as I did %oldjob%, a simple hop
> over VPN now leverages the access I had at Target…
>
>
>
> Except what actually happened with Target was more **harder** than what I
> described above.
>
>
>
> IMO any place that doesn’t require a password expiration of any kind is
> likely (exceptions to this, sure) the same place that doesn’t have a
> process for disabling all the access former employees have.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> *From:* listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Micheal Espinola Jr
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2016 6:31 PM
> *To:* ntsys...@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Password expiring debate on patch management
>
>
>
>    1. Old admin knows many management passwords
>    2. Old admin goes to work for competitor
>    3. Company and competitor are up for same contracts
>    4. Old admin remotes into company to look at emails and presentation
>    materials
>    5. Competitor starts taking business from company by usurping sales
>    pitches in very specific ways
>    6. I get hired 2+ years after old admin in question
>    7. I review remote logs to establish behavioral patterns
>    8. I see odd logon behavior and trace repetitive IPs
>    9. I trace IPs to competitor as well as old admin specifically
>
>
>
> I am Jacks complete lack of surprise when management doesnt change their
> password and uses the same passwords for many things.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Kennedy, Jim <
> kennedy...@elyriaschools.org> wrote:
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>
>
> "Even six months is far better than never"
>
>
>
> Why?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com [listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com]
> on behalf of Dave Lum [l...@ochin.org]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2016 6:58 PM
> *To:* ntsys...@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] Password expiring debate on patch management
>
> Anyone see the debate on the Patch management list, driven by this:
> https://www.cesg.gov.uk/articles/problems-forcing-regular-password-expiry
>
>
>
> I don’t even know how it’s a debate other than the desired frequency (no
> one-size-fits-all on that IMO). Even six months is far better than never.
> With expiring passwords you at bare minimum mitigate employee’s that leave.
>
>
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