Thanks for the info.  I knew weight would be the enemy.  Since my parts bike
isn't complete.  I planned on running only the tail section plastics,
creating a faux tank from fiberglass, and only installing a small windscreen
(cruiser style) on the front.  If it's not required for operation.  It'll be
removed/cut off/drilled/or replaced to save weight.

I'm thinking the mounting brackets for the motor and batteries will be made
from steel.  But any other mounting will be alum. for weight saving.  I also
plan on removing any unused mouting, and drilling what I can to reduce the
frames weight.

Another thing I'm thinking to converse power is to change all the lights on
the bike to LED's and a HID headlight.

Another thought I've had due to the range needed is creating a hybrid
motorcycle.  Using a small generator.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Jeffrey Blamey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> The 250 is a good start because weight is the the electric vehicle
> enemy. Your goal of 44 miles on a charge while trying to keep the bike
> weight down is going to challenge the storage issue. Some folks here
> have used older technology nicad single cells as they have some weight
> savings, and since they are individual can be arranged easily though
> they are liquid electrolyte and not sealed. To get low weight/high
> energy density that Lithium Iron or NiMH (which are okay on the
> environment) would be the only way to get the range. AGMs as I have
> used (55Ah - 72V) have netted only 21 miles of mixed mileage, 60-40
> flat-hills here in Colorado. I am carrying 228lbs of batteries, or
> roughly just over half the vehicle weight. This is on a 84 VF500.
>
> Lithium Ion and Lithium Poly both have safety issues and bad
> environmental Karma.
>
> There is a Chinese company that occasionally posts on EBAY Lithium
> Iron battery packs. You may be able to come up with the physical specs
> of the space you have to store the batteries and they can configure
> the battery pack for that space.
>
> BTW List viewers: I have been asked by Adams State in Alamosa, CO to
> go to their Earth Day event and talk to the students about electric
> motorcycles. I hope to have an electric bike with me as well if I can
> borrow one for the event. I will have to trailer the The
> Franken'ceptor since it is 4 hours away. The reason I bring up Earth
> day is there may be an event near you worth tooling over to on your
> electric motorcycle, maybe gather some potential converts, or give you
> the opportunity to do a conversion for someone else (make a few $ for
> the next project?). Or just bask in the revelations "Uh I didn't know
> Honda made an Electric Motorcycle."
>
> Cheers
> Jeff
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >     I'm gathering information on how I to build an EM.  I've got quiet a
> few
> > motorcycles. (Actually have 9 running bikes and 2 other parts bikes)
>  And it
> > struck me that I've got a rolling complete (minus engine) EX250 that
> would
> > make a good candidate for a EV conversion.
> >
> >    My goal is a EM that I can commute on.  However, work is 44 miles
> away.
> > I'm certain I could charge when I get there and be ready to ride back
> home.
> > The route is mixed with some rolling hills, but about 60% flats.
> >
> >    I've been reading up and I've read about regen.  I will have a
> section
> > that is stop and go traffic (traffic lights).  And a section that is
> about
> > 20 miles of the straight shot with one stop.  (rolling hills too)  So I
> > think regen is definitely a requirement.
> >
> >    At this point in time, I need guidance as to what controller, motor,
> and
> > batteries to use.  And the feasibility of the entire project.  I have a
> > machine shop and since the EX has a steel frame, welding isn't an issue.
> > I'm looking at the D&D Sepex motor and a Alltrax controller.   Also is
> there
> > any sources out there for used/rebuilt motors/controllers?  What's the
> > feasibility of a deepcycle battery from a local store (to save shipping
> > costs of multiple batteries)
> >
> >  Thanks,
> > Andrew
> >
>
>

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