This is big business, involves the government and tax revenues. It's bigger
than big. If we develop anything we should keep it hush hush, between
friends ;).  
 
Anyone looking for grants or good information on what is being funded should
check out www.floridaenergy.org <http://www.floridaenergy.org/> 
 
Below is an actual Solar quote I had in Nov 06 and it is for only 3000
watts. What kind of power and storage do you think we would need to make a
solar charging station?
 
There are state rebates and Federal tax credits, to offset the investment,
but in my opinion it is a way to get you on the tax list for later taxes for
generating electricity. Also the power company is required by law to notify
the Federal Government who is producing electricity, hmmm.  They have made
lot of advancements recently in solar technology, a lot! Flexible panels you
glue on to curtains and house paint! Grid tie systems feed power back to the
grid during the day offsetting your power bill. No batteries and no power
for the house at night but it is a good way to get started, offset your
costs and be prepared. You can also grow your system slowly saving money by
adding panels and batteries later. 
 
It is my understanding that solar power houses and EV's use their batteries
differently in regards to charging and discharging. The opposite way we use
them. Batteries charge from batteries rapidly like transferring fluid.
I.e... Two 12 volt batteries one full and one empty, connect them together
and the charge equalizes to 6 volts in each battery. The recharge to our
EV's could be pretty fast if the battery bank was 288-300 volts and could be
recharged fast enough, but I doubt you could get enough solar panels in the
area of the charging station and it sounds scary! Anyways, I am always open
for brainstorming. 
 
 
Bernie
 
Customer Contact Ship To
Quotation PO # Reference Ship VIA Page Printed
18890 PREPAID
11/14/2006
11/14/2006 11/14/2006
11/28/2006
7:39:02PM
L Item Description Qty Price UM Discount Amount
1 GTS656 Residential GTS 3000 W 0 $21,200.00 EA $0.00
2 Includes: 15 Sanyo 200HIPBA3 panels, PV
3 Rated Watts 3000, PTC Watts 2830.5,
4 Inverter: Xantrex GT 3.0, Output 240
5 VAC, UniRac Solar Mount rack system,
6 junction or combiner boxes, disconnects,
7 installation and operation manuals.
8 System Includes:
9 001 Sanyo HIP-200BA3, 200W PV Module 15 $1,109.00 EA $16,635.00
10 MC3 Solar Line 1
11 1618 Xantrex GT 3.0 Grid Tie Inverter, 240VAC 1 $1,839.00 EA $1,839.00
12 BOS Balance of System 1 $2,646.00 EA $2,646.00
13 Including: UniRac Solar Mount rail and
14 clamps; MC interconnect extension cords
15 and grounding system; junction and pull
16 boxes; installation and operation
17 guides.
18 SH SHIPPING/HANDLING 1 $695.00 EA $695.00
19 Additional Items
20 1699 SMA Sunny Island Inverter 4248U 1 $4,374.00 EA $4,374.00
21 530 MK Sealed 8G8D 12V, 225AH, LTP 4 $375.00 EA $1,500.00
22 410 Battery Interconnect 12" Blk 2/0 UL List 3 $19.00 EA $57.00
23 69 Battery Cable Set 10' 2/0, UL Listed 1 $130.00 EA $130.00
24 SH SHIPPING/HANDLING -- TBD 0 $625.00 EA $0.00
25 Expected FL Rebate: $4.00 * 3000 =
26 $12,000.
27 Yearly output: 4090 kWH as per PVwatts.
Due to the rapidly expanding market prices and availablity
are subject to change.
$0.00
$0.00
Tax Details
EXEMPT $0.000
$27,876.00
$27,876.00
$27,876.00
Taxable
Total Tax
Exempt
Total
Balance
 
 
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destroyed knowledge of immeasurable value which truly belongs to us all.

We must not let it happen again."
-Carl Sagan
 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Clark
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FLEAA] off grid
 
looks like CNN did help us out a bit an showed the grid can handle electric
cars.  30 cents be kilowatt hour to charge an EV????  thats insane!!!

Makes the idea that we will need a solar charging station sold with each EV
even better if the utilities are going to rip off EV owners like that.
Greensburg Kansas will be the first all solar city and I hope that makes the
utiliities shake in their boots on the prospect it goes nation wide.

I will be sure to push solar at our meetings and get in contact with anyone
that has a solar house to help spread the word
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