IF you're considering hauling passengers, you might want to see what
the cost of insurance amounts to these days.
You are talking about some real $$! Walt Sergeant 8/3
On Aug 3, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Michael Clark wrote:
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From: "Jeremiah Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [FLEAA] EFFORT TO SAVE USF VANS
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:10:22 -0400
>I'm probably missing something here, but how could it be
>more expensive to buy batteries for this then for a built
>from scratch conversion?
It needs I think 38 batts where as nice light EV
commuters, kids to school, food, shopping, ect, could use
just 12 batts each for a town car. We can use inexpensive
forklift motors, make our own
adapter/coupler/charger/controller for under $500. It could
cost 1/2 what an ICE costs to run. If a buyer wants to
upgrade electronics it's easily done.
The Van is going to need things besides batteries
and what's it going to cost to buy. Minimum I see is about
$8k to buy, get it running. You'd probably need to buy both
for spares as much custom things on it, costing more. It's
OK if you have a use for it like what it's designed for,
hauling a lot of people, things, but if not, it's a lot of
money to sit, die again. An EV needs to match it's mission.
For $6k in parts you'd have 2 small EV's worth
probably $5k-8k each.
But should the club even be in the buying EV
business? Helping each other get their EV's on the road and
as a teaching tool would work well I'd think. Then we
wouldn't have to have a shop, raise money, ect.
Conversions are easy, especially on small EV's. And
I was told our goal is to do EV's so others could learn to
do their own. On say a VW bug with all the parts you might
be able to finish in a day or 2 with 6-10 people helping and
all the parts ready, having an old fashion EV raising!
Jerry Dycus
From a business and money standpoint, you are 100% correct Jerry.
Cost benefit and roi would say scrap em and use the motor drive
system if it still works in other projects.
This isnt the angle I am going for. These vans were built 10 years
ago. Bill Young has a van similar that was built in a study for
vehicles to go electric. These vans are a part of the electric
vehcile history and show that the EV technology was available 10
years ago. OPEC successfully helped kill the electric vehicle drive
back then by making oil very cheap. I remember a Exxon on nebraska
and fletcher that had 87 octane gas for 85 cents a gallon in 1997.
We have been stabbed in the back since then. The dream of fast cars
that ran on cheap gas is now a nightmare. We bought into the dream
and look where we are today.
If we had a show piece for the EV initiative that was built 10 years
ago people will see that EVs are not a dream but have been the
solution for 10 years. The exact reason why we are not electric is
unknown but we have have a good idea why.
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