Who would have believed there was no remote API?! And that 64-bit support for 
the Visual Studio 2008 Extensions isn't even in scope?!

 

OK...I've setup my 32-bit Windows Server 2003 VM with MOSS (a basic site 
collection), SQL 2005, VS2008 and Extensions 1.2. Great!

 

Now I'm able to launch VS2008 and create a new project (SharePoint Sequential 
Workflow) without errors.

 

However after much Googling and online reading through other people's posts of 
misery, I still have a couple of questions:

 

1.    How do I get my 32-bit development work from the VM to the 64-bit staging 
environment (which I understand is supported)? Am I expected to create a 
solution package for every little modification and then copy it across to that 
box, open it for testing, then deploy via Stsadm, object model of Central Admin?

2.    Do I even need VS installed on the remote servers? I hardly see the point 
if workflow authoring is not supported.

3.    Do I need to deploy my code and assemblies to every web front end 
manually or does this occur automatically when deploying a solution?

 

Apologies if I'm not making any sense or just sounding terribly naïve.

 

I'll also look into Hyper-V. Thanks Daniel.

 

Regards,

Paul

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Brown
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008

 

·         Our server is running on 64-bit architecture. I understand that 
having VS2008 on the same box means you can't deploy solutions. Would it make 
any difference to stick with 32-bit on the dev environment?

 

I think for the most part the x86/x64 is not too bad in this case, where 
developing on x86 should work fairly seamlessly. However saying that, I haven't 
developed code for targeted x64.

 

·         Do you develop a VM from scratch and use an empty MOSS environment, 
or is it better to take a snapshot of your live/staging environments to try to 
emulate this as best you can?

 

It really depends on what you're doing, for example if your content database is 
100GB, you properly don't want to be loading that up in a VM, in which case I 
would just use a vanilla MOSS install and go from there.

 

 

A somewhat sideway idea is the use of Windows Server 2008/Hyper-V in the 
laptop, which you could have your XP/Vista machine with office, etc and then 
have your developer VM's, I know a few people who have gone down this path and 
some more who are seriously considering it.

 

 

 

Daniel Brown - SharePoint MVP

Adelaide SharePoint User Group

Website: http://www.aspug.org.au <http://www.aspug.com.au/> 

Blog: http://www.danielbrown.id.au <http://www.danielbrown.id.au/> 

Mobile: 0419-804-099

 

ý Please consider your envrionment before printing this email.

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 8:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008

 

Thanks again Rebecca, and Kirk.

 

That's pretty much the conclusion I've come to.

 

A couple of quick questions before we close this baby:

 

·         Our server is running on 64-bit architecture. I understand that 
having VS2008 on the same box means you can't deploy solutions. Would it make 
any difference to stick with 32-bit on the dev environment?

·         Do you develop a VM from scratch and use an empty MOSS environment, 
or is it better to take a snapshot of your live/staging environments to try to 
emulate this as best you can?

 

Apologies again for the newbie questions.

 

Regards,

Paul

Online Developer, ICT
CEO Sydney

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rebecca Thornton
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008

 

It's simple enough to upgrade the WSS installation on the Microsoft VM to a 
MOSS one; I had to do it yesterday.  I haven't tried upgrading the Visual 
Studio to 2008, but I'd be surprised if that was a problem either.  

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Paul Noone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks Caroline.

 

I really need the MOSS facility though and would prefer not to revert my 
current VS version.

 

I don't suppose it could be as simple as copying across the 
microsoft.sharepoint.* and microsoft.office.* DLLs to my local box, then adding 
a reference to them in VS? This wouldn't solve the issue of not being able to 
debug but I may at least be able to see the Microsoft.SharePoint assembly 
represented in the Code Editor.

 

Just a thought.

 

Regards,

Paul

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Specker 
(AU)
Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 3:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008

 

There is a downloadable WSS 3.0 dev environment VM here:  
http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1BEEAC6F-2EA1-4769-9948-74A74BD604FA&displaylang=en.

 

Note:  it is WSS not MOSS

 It has Visual Studio 2005, not 2008 on it.

 

This may be a good starting point for you.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 3:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [OzMOSS] Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008

 

Hi all,

 

I have yet another potentially embarrassing question.

 

I've recently installed VS2008 on my local XP machine as a precursor to getting 
my hands dirty with some custom workflow activities and looking at what the 
VSeWSS 1.2 tools can do. And, well, ahem...it appears that remote connection to 
a MOSS server are not sufficient for the task.

 

Short of wiping my current box, installing Windows Server 2003, MOSS2007 and 
WSS3, I'd prefer to explore other possible solutions.

 

What are other people doing for local dev? And if the resounding response is a 
VM, would someone mind outlining the requirements for one? 

 

And one more silly question (while I'm on a roll), can you wrap up SPD 
developed workflows with the SSG and: a) redevelop them in VS, b) deploy them 
to other sites and collections?

 

As ever, all replies are gratefully received.

 

Kind regards,

Paul Noone
Online Developer, ICT

 

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