IMO the VSE for MOSS are a joke. I know that I am not alone in this, but try not to cause too much trouble :)
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Paul Noone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who would have believed there was no remote API?! And that 64-bit support > for the Visual Studio 2008 Extensions isn't even in scope?! > > > > OK…I've setup my 32-bit Windows Server 2003 VM with MOSS (a basic site > collection), SQL 2005, VS2008 and Extensions 1.2. Great! > > > > Now I'm able to launch VS2008 and create a new project (SharePoint > Sequential Workflow) without errors. > > > > However after much Googling and online reading through other people's posts > of misery, I still have a couple of questions: > > > > 1. How do I get my 32-bit development work from the VM to the 64-bit > staging environment (which I understand is supported)? Am I expected to > create a solution package for every little modification and then copy it > across to that box, open it for testing, then deploy via Stsadm, object > model of Central Admin? > > 2. Do I even need VS installed on the remote servers? I hardly see the > point if workflow authoring is not supported. > > 3. Do I need to deploy my code and assemblies to every web front end > manually or does this occur automatically when deploying a solution? > > > > Apologies if I'm not making any sense or just sounding terribly naïve. > > > > I'll also look into Hyper-V. Thanks Daniel. > > > > Regards, > > Paul > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Daniel Brown > Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008 > > > > · Our server is running on 64-bit architecture. I understand that > having VS2008 on the same box means you can't deploy solutions. Would it > make any difference to stick with 32-bit on the dev environment? > > > > I think for the most part the x86/x64 is not too bad in this case, where > developing on x86 should work fairly seamlessly. However saying that, I > haven't developed code for targeted x64. > > > > · Do you develop a VM from scratch and use an empty MOSS > environment, or is it better to take a snapshot of your live/staging > environments to try to emulate this as best you can? > > > > It really depends on what you're doing, for example if your content database > is 100GB, you properly don't want to be loading that up in a VM, in which > case I would just use a vanilla MOSS install and go from there. > > > > > > A somewhat sideway idea is the use of Windows Server 2008/Hyper-V in the > laptop, which you could have your XP/Vista machine with office, etc and then > have your developer VM's, I know a few people who have gone down this path > and some more who are seriously considering it. > > > > > > > > Daniel Brown – SharePoint MVP > > Adelaide SharePoint User Group > > Website: http://www.aspug.org.au > > Blog: http://www.danielbrown.id.au > > Mobile: 0419-804-099 > > > > ý Please consider your envrionment before printing this email. > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Paul Noone > Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 8:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008 > > > > Thanks again Rebecca, and Kirk. > > > > That's pretty much the conclusion I've come to. > > > > A couple of quick questions before we close this baby: > > > > · Our server is running on 64-bit architecture. I understand that > having VS2008 on the same box means you can't deploy solutions. Would it > make any difference to stick with 32-bit on the dev environment? > > · Do you develop a VM from scratch and use an empty MOSS > environment, or is it better to take a snapshot of your live/staging > environments to try to emulate this as best you can? > > > > Apologies again for the newbie questions. > > > > Regards, > > Paul > > Online Developer, ICT > CEO Sydney > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Rebecca Thornton > Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:50 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008 > > > > It's simple enough to upgrade the WSS installation on the Microsoft VM to a > MOSS one; I had to do it yesterday. I haven't tried upgrading the Visual > Studio to 2008, but I'd be surprised if that was a problem either. > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Paul Noone > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Caroline. > > > > I really need the MOSS facility though and would prefer not to revert my > current VS version. > > > > I don't suppose it could be as simple as copying across the > microsoft.sharepoint.* and microsoft.office.* DLLs to my local box, then > adding a reference to them in VS? This wouldn't solve the issue of not being > able to debug but I may at least be able to see the Microsoft.SharePoint > assembly represented in the Code Editor. > > > > Just a thought. > > > > Regards, > > Paul > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Caroline Specker (AU) > Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 3:26 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008 > > > > There is a downloadable WSS 3.0 dev environment VM here: > http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1BEEAC6F-2EA1-4769-9948-74A74BD604FA&displaylang=en. > > > > Note: it is WSS not MOSS > > It has Visual Studio 2005, not 2008 on it. > > > > This may be a good starting point for you. > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Paul Noone > Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 3:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [OzMOSS] Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008 > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have yet another potentially embarrassing question. > > > > I've recently installed VS2008 on my local XP machine as a precursor to > getting my hands dirty with some custom workflow activities and looking at > what the VSeWSS 1.2 tools can do. And, well, ahem…it appears that remote > connection to a MOSS server are not sufficient for the task. > > > > Short of wiping my current box, installing Windows Server 2003, MOSS2007 and > WSS3, I'd prefer to explore other possible solutions. > > > > What are other people doing for local dev? And if the resounding response is > a VM, would someone mind outlining the requirements for one? > > > > And one more silly question (while I'm on a roll), can you wrap up SPD > developed workflows with the SSG and: a) redevelop them in VS, b) deploy > them to other sites and collections? > > > > As ever, all replies are gratefully received. > > > > Kind regards, > > Paul Noone > Online Developer, ICT > > > > ________________________________ > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressed recipient(s) only and > may contain confidential and privileged information. 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