Grant...Legend! ________________________________
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Grant Holliday Sent: Fri 9/14/2007 6:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [OzTFS] RE: Virtual TFS? Hi Brian, You have a few options for trial VPCs. The Microsoft VHD Test Drive VHDs (www.microsoft.com/vhd) is a good place to start for evaluating any MS server products. Team System: (Server + Team Suite) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9d60655e-814c-40a8-9762-53a40d8e7b37&displaylang=en Team Suite Only: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=ffd86643-7c31-42a2-91d8-7d160449b368&displaylang=en Roll your own ontop of a Windows Server VPC: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=77f24c9d-b4b8-4f73-99e3-c66f80e415b6&displaylang=en The VSTS 200-Level Basics Training VPC: https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=527E2A17-1DEA-4D0B-9484-6AE43D00E570&displaylang=en Get a head start with the 2008 VPC: http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=7171920 Grant ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian H. Madsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 14 September 2007 8:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [OzTFS] RE: Virtual TFS? Hey Mitch, Thanks for that - pretty much sums up my decision. It's not going to be a "production" environment as such so the speed of it isn't terribly important. my host box as 4GB of ram only (it's my former desktop), runs Windows Server 2003 R2 (some SP or another) and i've made 6 virtual images (base images that is). Currently i have my OS on a RAID 0 SCSI setup, but am considering moving it from that SCSI set and onto my SATA2 set which also runs RAID 0 (believe transfer speeds on the SATA2 drives are faster than on the SCSI set). Anyways, i'm trying to leave 2GB of ram for the host at all times but i may have to give only 1GB to the images (i intend to run only a max of two virtual servers at one given time anyway). How good is Virtual Server 2005 versus VMWare on the memory allocation - staying on the allocated memory that is. I've had some previous issues with Virtual PC which at times actually locked up my host as it was hogging all the memory. Upside here is that i have licenses for Virtual Server but not for VMWare (in short, i hope Virtual Server is ok). Now last night I spoke to a couple of guys via a conf. chat and they mentioned that MS has released some trial images which already contain TFS and all it needs? is anybody aware of this or able to point me in the right direction? I wasn't able to find it myself and my friend from overseas couldn't remember where it was found either. Lastly, just a thanks to everybody for the responses. I'm definitely going to run it in the virtual environment only - and i believe that may be safer to do (as per Mitch's advise), in terms of disaster recovery, even in a production environment. Cheers Brian ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mitch Denny Sent: Fri 9/14/2007 6:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [OzTFS] RE: Virtual TFS? Hi Brian, I pretty much recommend that people run TFS in only virtual environments. The reason is disaster recovery. With base and differencing disk you have a great way of doing backups to entire systems which can easily be restored to any virtual server host. The trick is to not under resource your virtual server host, but you can actually have a fairly effective installation between 1GB-2GB of RAM (on the guest) if the host itself has a good I/O system. Watch out for loading the images onto a SAN, in my experience a SAN can be problematic for a VM. You should also look at having a sysprep image for build servers if you undertake a lot of projects. The build server itself is what tends to get dirty over time so you should create one or each project and then just turn them off when you aren't using them (virtualised of course). You can actually fit a standard .NET 2.0/3.0 build server in 512MB RAM. In fact we have a .NET 3.5 build server running in 512MB of RAM and it seems to work OK. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian H. Madsen Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2007 9:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [OzTFS] Virtual TFS? Hey Guys, I'm doing a lot of testing at the moment - predominantly service testing - to see how much my server can handle. At this stage I know I cannot possibly run everything i want on the single server, but i don't use all services consistently..eg. some services aren't used for weeks on end. That's why i wanted to take a look at virtualisation for what i'm running. Before i get to this stage and start building my virtual servers/images I was wondering if anybody here has had any experience with TFS in a virtual environment? Anything i should look out for? Anything you can recommend? Any help accepted ;) Regards Brian H. 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