My school, also a small private school, just began using leveled assessment 
tools based on the F&P levels. I am a literacy specialist for the lower school, 
grades k-4. What we have found is that the level book assessments are only 
useful for struggling readers - that once students reach about a level R, the 
levels are less critical. Many of our students reach level R by 3rd grade, and 
almost all reach it by the beginning of 4th grade. "How to Eat Fried Worms" and 
"Indian in the Cupboard" are examples of level R books. We also do not go 
strictly by leveled books. Instead, we teach the students what Just Right 
reading feels like, how it is not too hard, nor too easy. It's amazing how 
quickly the kids pick up on this vocabulary!

Our entire leveled library is leveled using F&P, so we also considered using 
their benchmark assessment. Instead, we use the assessment tools from the 
Teachers College Reading and Writing Project (TCRWP). The levels align with 
F&P, and the assessment passages are online and can be downloaded for free. So 
far, we've found this to be a good alternative. We use DIBELS as a fluency 
measure, then cross-check it with the TCRWP assessments to check for 
comprehension. However, as always, sitting down with the student one-on-one and 
reading with them, asking questions, etc gives the most and best information. 
We consider assessment measures as one "snapshot" of each child, NOT the entire 
picture! Any child that shows weakness in DIBELS, TCRWP and individual 
conferences is then one we watch closely.

I cannot imagine using leveled reading assessments beyond 4th grade. Perhaps 
using this type of assessment for students new to the school, especially in the 
admission process, would be useful. Your LS is smart to use it, but it should 
be less of a tool for MS, if used at all.

Andrea


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Pete and Cindy Farnum
Sent: Sun 2/24/2008 11:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [LIT] Fountas and Pinnell (cross-post)
 
Hi everyone!
Haven't posted in a while as my daughter (9 months now -- can you believe it?) 
has been keeping me busy! I'm just now trying to get caught up with everyone's 
posts. In addition, I would like to get your opinions about the Fountas and 
Pinnell Benchmark Assessment II program. Read below.

My school, in search for a placement and reading program, recently sent me to a 
training on Fountas and Pinnell's Benchmark Assessment II. After attending the 
session, I'm really questioning how appropriate it is for the general 
population in our middle school. 

It seems like a GREAT program for elementary school, but I'm trying to figure 
out how I am going use their 30 minutes assessments for my 80 kids and not take 
months to do it. I see each of my sections for a total of 4:10 minutes a week 
as their Language Arts teacher! We're a smaller private school without a 
reading specialist. I know that there are better programs out there that won't 
take such an incredible amount of time away from my classroom instruction. 

Another hesitation I have is how this program fits with my students. Over half 
of my students are high performing/excellent readers. On average, each of my 
classes has maybe 2-3 students performing/reading below grade level.The 
component which makes this program stand out from others is its fluency/oral 
reading component (which honestly is much like a running record); the writing 
and comprehension components don't seem better than other programs I've used at 
other schools. Since very few of my students struggle with fluency, I'm trying 
to figure out if this program really is the best for us. 

Is there anyone on this group familiar with or using F&P? If so, what are your 
thoughts? Besides STAR reading, do any of you recommend any computerized 
assessment programs? The elementary school has jumped right in to this program, 
and it's really up to me to weigh its benefits for my students and decide 
whether we will use it in 6th grade (and eventually the rest of middle school). 
Unfortunately, I have to make the decision rather quickly. 

My initial reaction is that this program might just be best for our struggling 
students as a form of remediation/intervention rather than all the sixth 
graders, but I would much rather hear more from others who have used the 
program before making any final judgments.

Thanks so much for your help and thoughts...
Cindy in CA
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