I'm curious to hear from those who do use leveling for middle school readers
and why kinds of texts beyond z do you use for assessment and instructional
purposes.

Maureen Robins
Assistant Principal/LA
 NYC


On 2/24/08, Andrea Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My school, also a small private school, just began using leveled
> assessment tools based on the F&P levels. I am a literacy specialist for the
> lower school, grades k-4. What we have found is that the level book
> assessments are only useful for struggling readers - that once students
> reach about a level R, the levels are less critical. Many of our students
> reach level R by 3rd grade, and almost all reach it by the beginning of 4th
> grade. "How to Eat Fried Worms" and "Indian in the Cupboard" are examples of
> level R books. We also do not go strictly by leveled books. Instead, we
> teach the students what Just Right reading feels like, how it is not too
> hard, nor too easy. It's amazing how quickly the kids pick up on this
> vocabulary!
>
> Our entire leveled library is leveled using F&P, so we also considered
> using their benchmark assessment. Instead, we use the assessment tools from
> the Teachers College Reading and Writing Project (TCRWP). The levels align
> with F&P, and the assessment passages are online and can be downloaded for
> free. So far, we've found this to be a good alternative. We use DIBELS as a
> fluency measure, then cross-check it with the TCRWP assessments to check for
> comprehension. However, as always, sitting down with the student one-on-one
> and reading with them, asking questions, etc gives the most and best
> information. We consider assessment measures as one "snapshot" of each
> child, NOT the entire picture! Any child that shows weakness in DIBELS,
> TCRWP and individual conferences is then one we watch closely.
>
> I cannot imagine using leveled reading assessments beyond 4th grade.
> Perhaps using this type of assessment for students new to the school,
> especially in the admission process, would be useful. Your LS is smart to
> use it, but it should be less of a tool for MS, if used at all.
>
> Andrea
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Pete and Cindy Farnum
> Sent: Sun 2/24/2008 11:13 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [LIT] Fountas and Pinnell (cross-post)
>
> Hi everyone!
> Haven't posted in a while as my daughter (9 months now -- can you believe
> it?) has been keeping me busy! I'm just now trying to get caught up with
> everyone's posts. In addition, I would like to get your opinions about the
> Fountas and Pinnell Benchmark Assessment II program. Read below.
>
> My school, in search for a placement and reading program, recently sent me
> to a training on Fountas and Pinnell's Benchmark Assessment II. After
> attending the session, I'm really questioning how appropriate it is for the
> general population in our middle school.
>
> It seems like a GREAT program for elementary school, but I'm trying to
> figure out how I am going use their 30 minutes assessments for my 80 kids
> and not take months to do it. I see each of my sections for a total of 4:10
> minutes a week as their Language Arts teacher! We're a smaller private
> school without a reading specialist. I know that there are better programs
> out there that won't take such an incredible amount of time away from my
> classroom instruction.
>
> Another hesitation I have is how this program fits with my students. Over
> half of my students are high performing/excellent readers. On average, each
> of my classes has maybe 2-3 students performing/reading below grade
> level.The component which makes this program stand out from others is its
> fluency/oral reading component (which honestly is much like a running
> record); the writing and comprehension components don't seem better than
> other programs I've used at other schools. Since very few of my students
> struggle with fluency, I'm trying to figure out if this program really is
> the best for us.
>
> Is there anyone on this group familiar with or using F&P? If so, what are
> your thoughts? Besides STAR reading, do any of you recommend any
> computerized assessment programs? The elementary school has jumped right in
> to this program, and it's really up to me to weigh its benefits for my
> students and decide whether we will use it in 6th grade (and eventually the
> rest of middle school). Unfortunately, I have to make the decision rather
> quickly.
>
> My initial reaction is that this program might just be best for our
> struggling students as a form of remediation/intervention rather than all
> the sixth graders, but I would much rather hear more from others who have
> used the program before making any final judgments.
>
> Thanks so much for your help and thoughts...
> Cindy in CA
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