Hi Manuel.

The files are committed in svn now.

Best regards,
Angelos

On 01/20/2011 06:00 PM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
Hi,

I wrote the Overview and QuickStart texts for the OTB project in the frame of the next release of OSGeo live.

I don't know if I've got access to the SVN repository to push the file (my OSGeo login is 'manuelgrizonnet').

However, you can find the first version of the documentation with also related logo/images here : http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/packages/svn_osgeolive_backup.tgz

Do not hesitate if I made mistakes.

Regards,

Manuel


2011/1/14 Cameron Shorter <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    Thanks Manuel,
    I've change the name of the project in our spreadsheet to "otb".

    This name, "otb" will be the acronym that you should use for your
    install script and documentation, and our status spreadsheets. We
    use a bit of excel magic to work out status of docs and
    translations based upon this name.



    On 14/01/11 20:04, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
    Hi Cameron,

    I addes an entry in the #Status document about orfeo toolbox.

    The install script for OTB  will be very simple I think :

    /sudo aptitude install add-apt-repository
    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otb/orfeotoolbox-stable/
    /sudo aptitude update /
    /sudo aptitude install otb otbapp monteverdi/
    /
    /
    I'll send a script for orfeo based on the mapserver script soon.

    Regards,

    Manuel

    2011/1/12 Cameron Shorter <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>

        Thank you Manual for these clarifications.

        I'm heartened by all your answers, and I'm +1 for including
        OTB on OSGeo-Live.
        Assuming that there are no other questions or objections from
        our community, I'd encourage you to start packaging OTB as per:
        http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project

        If you wish to make the next release, can you please aim to
        have install script and Overview and Quickstart text complete
        by 31 January.



        On 13/01/2011 4:41 AM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
        Hi all,

        I answer below to questions about OTB before moving forward:

        1. OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can
        use rather
        than libraries that are included into other applications.
        Does ORFEO
        Toolbox have a user interface (possibly command line
        interface) that a
        user can interact with and try out ORFEO Toolbox?

        ->Yes the software Monteverdi based on OTB provide a user
        interface and an architecture which allows building
        processing chains by selecting modules from a set of menus.
        It supports raster and vector dataThe architecture takes
        advantage of the streaming and multi-threading capabilities
        of the OTB pipeline. It also uses cool features as
        processing on demand and automagic file format I/O. The
        application is called Monteverdi, since this is the name of
        the Orfeo composer
        <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Monteverdi>.  The
        application is also packaged on Ubuntu, you can find more
        informations here :
        http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html
        Moreover the otb-app package provides OTB processing chain
        (command line interface) which are also accessible through
        user interface (standalone qt application or qgis plugins)

        2. OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained.
        Can ORFEO Toolbox run in 512 Meg or RAM?

        ->Yes, we already provide in the past Live OTB which works
        on this type of platforms. The application monteverdi was
        developped in the frame of capacity building activities and
        it works on PC with memory and disk constrained (512 Mo of
        RAM is enough to run the application and do basic processing).

        How much disk space will be required to install ORFEO
        Toolbox and a
        suitable example application.

        -> otb package 10 Mo, monteverdi package 10 Mo, otb-app 15 Mo

        What datasets would be required for a demonstration? Can you
        make use of
        the naturalearth dataset already installed, or would you
        need something
        else?
        http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets

        -> I do not know this dataset, I think that we can use this
        dataset. We provide also on our repository extract of remote
        sensing data which are used as examples in the software
        guide and in the OTB tutorial.
        http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/
        Our documentation (description of algorithms, input images,
        examples and results) are automatically generated each time
        when we update the software guide to ensure that results
        which appear in the documentation are results provided by
        the library.
        We can pointed out interesting "Toy example" if you want
        which will give an overview of OTB functionnalities on the
        Live DVD?

        3. You mention that ORFEO is in OSGeo incubation. I can't
        see ORFEO
        listed athttp://osgeo.org. Have you started incubation, or
        are you on
        the waiting list to start incubation?

        -> Sorry, I only open a ticket on the OSGeo website to start
        the incubation process for now...

        4. Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. Do you
        have a bug
        free, stable release, which has been rolled out to
        production in a
        number of locations?

        -> The last OTB release 3.8.0 and monteverdi 1.6.0 are the
        latest stable release. OTB validation is mainly driven by a
        platform of automatic tests (based on cmake, ctest and
        cdash). The library is continuously and intensively tests on
        numerous platforms. There are more than 1500 tests currently
        in the library...
        http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB

        5. I notice the CeCILL licence you use is not listed on OSI
        list of
        licences. Has license been discussed and resolved on the
        OSGeo-Incubation list?

        -> I am not aware of any discussions about the licence,
        Cecill is a free software license (adapted to french legal
        matter) compatible with GPL :
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL

        6. Do you have a person (maybe yourself?) prepared to
        volunteer to be
        the OSGeo-Live representative, who will take responsibility
        for liaising
        between the project and OSGeo-Live and make sure that
        scripts and
        documentation are updated for each release.

        -> No problem for liaising between OSGeo and OTB. There is
        also an OTB packages team on launchpad with contacts :
        https://launchpad.net/~otb <https://launchpad.net/%7Eotb>

        Regards,

        Manuel

        2011/1/11 Manuel Grizonnet <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>

            Hi Johan,

            I think that's some words in your answers are missing...
            "it is already packaged and...???"

            2011/1/11 Johan Van de Wauw <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>

                Since


                On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Manuel Grizonnet
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    The toolbox (and also related projects) are also
                    provided as binary packages for Windows, Mac and
                    recently also on Linux Platforms. An OTB
                    repository is available on launchpad.net
                    <http://launchpad.net> for Ubuntu platforms
                    (9.10,10.4,10.10) and also for OpenSuse platforms.

                it is already packaged and

                    OTB is under incubation for OSGeo Project.

                I think it would be a very good idea to include OTB
                on the live disk.




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