Hello Julien,

For opinions on translation, I defer mostly to people with more experience that me. (I'm afraid I only speak English).

Cheers, Cameron.


On 21/6/17 8:00 am, Vicky Vergara wrote:
Hello Julien.

+1 to wait for transifex translations for new documents or completely rewritten documents.

and focus the efforts of the translators on the files with "not so many changes". So that, when moving to transifex the already translated strings, we know are "almost" valid strings.


Vicky



On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Julien Moquet <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Cameron,

    Yes, and I made a tweet out of it !
    Thank you for your help too.

    About the translations, as transifex will arrive soon (thanks to
    Vicky !), it should be a good idea to wait a bit more, and let
    them use and practice transifex rather than text on github. Vicky
    tell me how to add the french translation by myself before.
    What do you think of ?

    Regards,
    Julien.

    2017-06-20 22:45 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

        Hi Julien,

        In case you missed it, I've reviewed your Proj4 Project
        Overview, pull request is here:

        https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/216
        <https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/216>

        Thanks for your work.


        On 17/6/17 7:19 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
        Hi Cameron,


        >> Vicky has mentioned that she is helping her brother who is
        in hospital, so she will be short on spare time for a bit.

        Thank you for telling me. I am sure she'd be back soon.


        >> I hope to have a chance to review your proj4 doc updates
        this weekend, from a readability point of view.

        I'm done with proj4 on my side : doc & iso 10.5 are good for me.
        I am about to pull request it.

        It would have been done whatever the release it is for. It
        wasn't so much work to do.

        Regards,
        Julien.

        2017-06-16 22:22 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

            Hi Julien,

            Vicky has mentioned that she is helping her brother who
            is in hospital, so she will be short on spare time for a bit.

            I hope to have a chance to review your proj4 doc updates
            this weekend, from a readability point of view.

            Warm regards, Cameron


            On 16/6/17 7:15 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
            Hi Vicky,

            I am downloading the 10.5 iso in order to make the test.

            I had a look to pgRouting's quickstart, and made a very
            few change : are you agree to be proj4's quickstart's
            reviewer ?

            Regards,
            Julien.

            2017-06-14 20:29 GMT+02:00 Julien Moquet
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

                Hi Vicky,

                I am not in the incubating list as a human being,
                but metacrs is :
                http://www.osgeo.org/incubator


                I'll have a look on pgRouting.

                Regards,
                Julien.


                2017-06-14 3:02 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

                    Hello Julien,

                    Now about the documentation
                    I see you've worked on your fork, these are the
                    differences:
                    is that correct?
                    
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/compare/master...julien2512:master
                    
<https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/compare/master...julien2512:master>

                    I dont think you are incubating project (I dont
                    see it in the list of incubating projects), so
                    this might not apply.

                    .. image:: ../../images/logos/OSGeo_incubation.png
                       :scale: 100 %
                       :alt: OSGeo Project
                       :align: right
                       
:target:http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html
                    <http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html>

                    ​
                    ​But I see you advanced a lot on the
                    documentation 👍​
                    ​You might as well do the PR so that the other
                    members of the team can give you feed back.​
                    ​Vicky.​
                    ​​
                    PS, in pgRouting   the documentation is done in
                    such a way, to make minimal changes in further
                    releases of OSGeo Live.
                    On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Julien Moquet
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        Hi Vicky,
                        My fork is up to date regarding the overview
                        and quickstart:
                        https://github.com/julien2512/OSGeoLive-doc
                        <https://github.com/julien2512/OSGeoLive-doc>
                        Before making a pull request, I need to test
                        it over the OsGeoLive-10.5 (on wednesday or
                        thursday).
                        Although, as I read the sources.list include
                        in this version, I don't really think the
                        latest proj4 will be used.
                        The ubuntugis is used for that, and there is
                        only the stable 4.8.0-3 proj4 release to be
                        used. See :
                        
http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu/pool/main/p/proj/
                        
<http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu/pool/main/p/proj/>

                        and
                        
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/osgeolive_10_5/sources.list.d/ubuntugis.list
                        
<https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/osgeolive_10_5/sources.list.d/ubuntugis.list>

                        That's why I finally don't have to change
                        the proj4 release on its overview.
                        I only bypass the metacrs and stuff.
                        Regards,
                        Julien.
                        2017-06-11 18:11 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>>:

                            Hi Julien, et all
                            Maybe you can help me.
                            It so happened that I sent another mail
                            asking about what version to use, while
                            reviewing today, I saw that I didn't
                            send the mail to proj4.
                            (my mail merge skills are not so good)
                            So, here is the hand made mail:
                            Hi all, With the upcoming OSGeo-Live
                            11.0 reboot, we will be re-inserting
                            each project into the OSGeo-Live
                            baseline once someone from each project
                            has replied to confirm that they have
                            reviewed docs and verified the
                            application works as expected. Can you
                            please:  0. Reply by return email to
                            confirm that you have recieved this
                            email and that you are able to check
                            docs within the next 2 weeks. (sooner
                            would be better if you can)  1. Reply to
                            confirm the Project Overview is still
                            accurate, or has been updated, (and
                            version numbers are correct)  2. Reply
                            to confirm you have run a recent
                            OSGeo-Live version (the previous 10.5
                            version is ok), and updated the
                            quickstart where needed.  We understand
                            that version 4.9.2 of proj4 will be
                            installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0 (Version
                            4.9.2 was installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.)
                            (all in one reply is ok)
                            Full package status can be seen here:
                            
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150
                            
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150>
                            Key Milestones -------------------
                            18-Jun-2017    All docs reviewed and
                            verified 21-Jun-2017    OSGeo-Live
                            delivered to UAT (final application
                            versions installed - Beta stage)
                            24-Jul-2017    OSGeo-Live Final ISO
                            14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston ... full
                            schedule
                            
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB
                            
<http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB>

                            On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Cameron
                            Shorter <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                Hi Julien,

                                Thanks for offering to help with
                                translations. I'm looping in Niko
                                and Vicky who are currently
                                wrestling with trying to get
                                transifex to work. If you are
                                familiar with it, you might be able
                                to help them.

                                Warm regards, Cameron

                                On 2/6/17 3:22 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
                                Hi,
                                >> It would be ok to say "Proj4 has
                                been translated into other
                                languages, including proj4js, ..."
                                > Agreed that metacrs is probably a
                                bit too ..
                                I am fully agree too.
                                And as OsGeoLive aims to be
                                multilanguages, I can help on the
                                proj4 French Translation pages.
                                Regards,
                                2017-05-31 22:15 GMT+02:00 Even
                                Rouault <[email protected]
                                <mailto:[email protected]>>:

                                    On jeudi 1 juin 2017 05:57:38
                                    CEST Cameron Shorter wrote:

                                    > Hi Evan,

                                    >

                                    > Yes, MetaCRS was a project
                                    gathering all the Proj4
                                    projects together.

                                    > However, it appears that proj4
                                    is the only project in that
                                    grouping

                                    > which is active?

                                    >

                                    > Hence my thoughts are that
                                    "MetaCRS" should be dropped
                                    from OSGeo-Live

                                    > as a concept and "Proj4" be
                                    used instead. It would be ok to
                                    say "Proj4

                                    > has been translated into other
                                    languages, including proj4js, ..."

                                    >

                                    > Your thoughts are welcome.

                                    Regarding what is listed
                                    currently in metacrs :

                                    - proj4js: no opinion

                                    - cs-map: no-opinion

                                    - geotiff/libgeotiff: heavily
                                    used underneath by GDAL in
                                    particular, mostly in
                                    maintaince mode, but can be
                                    treated as a technical
                                    dependency that doesn't require
                                    to be visible from users.

                                    - proj4j: no opinion

                                    - spatialreference.org
                                    <http://spatialreference.org>:
                                    not maintained in years.
                                    http://epsg.io/ would be a
                                    possible replacement

                                    Agreed that metacrs is probably
                                    a bit too ... meta for folks
                                    exploring OSGeo-Live content,
                                    so it could make sense exposing
                                    proj.4 as a standalone project.

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