I for one have enjoyed and learned much from both lists.  
   
  I remember in my youth that most bars had signs that said, "No discussions of 
Politics or Religion".  There were, and are, good reasons.  If you feel that 
you must post something that is off subject, might I suggest that you include 
the words "off subject", in the subject line, and, in the body, direct the 
reader to a web site or list where it is "on subject".  Those that don't wish 
to read it can act accordingly.
   
  Stephan was given a lot of respect, and his decisions were accepted, because 
of his tremendous contribution to the list.  Vern deserves no less.
   
  Don

       
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