The nutrients argument was used to get the Florida Keys declared a No 
Discharge Zone. The group pushing for it stated flat out they knew 
the few boats with Lectra/Sans were not a problem, but they felt they 
could get a lot of publicity out of it. Interesting is that a week or 
two after the keys became a NDZ, the results of a government study 
were released. Seems the biggest factor killing off the coral was all 
the development in the Everglades. All the dead plant matter 
(nutrients) that would wash down over the reefs each winter fed the 
reefs, and now there wasn't nearly enough "food". I didn't notice any 
movement to rescind the NDZ and encourage boaters to purchase 
Lectra/Sans to help feed the reefs!

We've had a Lectra/San since 1999. That's the ultimate, IMHO. Double 
treated with chlorine generated from the saltwater, macerated and 
"blended" so the discharge is a slightly milky, odorless and bacteria 
less liquid. The thing that scares off most folks is that it draws 
about 45-Amps when operating, but it works out to about 1.5-Amp Hours 
per flush because it only runs a couple minutes. The only down-side 
is that one has to add salt if in fresh or brackish water.

Around 2002 a senator from Massachusetts and our Louisiana sponsored 
a bill to make the requirements 100 time more stringent and do away 
with NDZ's. The requirement for certification was a bacteria count of 
1,000 per 100 ml. It seems when the testing  had been done,  the 
Lectra/San tested at 0 and another make (I have no idea what) at 8. 
So the new requirement would be 10 per 100 ml. The bill just sort of 
died from lack of interest from the other senators.

Rick 'n' Cathy Morel
S/V Valkyrie


At 11:49 AM 6/6/2008, Geoffrey  Trott wrote:

>I'm not sure how I got into this discussion but since I make 
>composting toilets for a living I've done quite a bit of research on this....
>
>You are correct urine is sterile and will lose sterility quickly 
>when dumped into a nonsterile body of water.  However, so will the 
>contents of a can of vacuum packed (sterile) soup when dumped into 
>the water.  Which means that one is no more likely to "catch 
>something" from the expelled soup than the urine.
>
>The issue in dumping urine is not in causing disease but in that one 
>is adding nutrients to a system that is  most likely overloaded with 
>them aleady. Too many nutrients causes unbalance in the local 
>ecosystem and has the ultimate and general effect of reducing the 
>amount of animal diversity.  It makes all the sense in the world to 
>empty small amounts of urine and feces into areas that will not feel 
>the effects...open ocean at least a few miles out (where legal).
>
>Hope that helps,
>
>Geoffrey  Trott  General  Manager  Eos  Design LLC PO Box 5 Mt.
>Vernon, OH 43050 740-392-3642


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