This 12 volt laptop discussion might be better dealt with on this Google
Group:  http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats.electronics/topics?hl=en
There seem to be a lot of EE's and other experts on there who know more
about marine electronics than I ever will.  Most of the time, I have no idea
what they are talking about.  Check it out.

Phil McGovern
s/v Sunshine



On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Philip McConnell <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Same here. I thought the sine wave form was only an issue for desk top
> computers. Notebooks run on DC whether from brick or battery.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I'm not an engineer like some of you, but I run my computer on a
> > square wave inverter (as in cheap) and have no problems. I perceive
> > that as long as the battery is in the computer it absorbs (filters)
> > whatever comes in and cleans it up enough for the computer to handle
> > it okay. This may not be great for the long term, but I've had no
> > problems.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 6:24 am
> > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] 12v computer
> >
> > Philip & Marilyn wrote:
> > > Does any one run their laptop directly from the house mains? The
> > > output from my power brick says 17 volts, but the internal battery
> > > supplies 14.4 which most likely drops to less than 13.8 when under
> > > load - so nominal ~13v dc aught to run it. Question is where to make
> > > the connection. Just plug into the power inlet in the back like the
> > > brick does?
> > >
> > > Any problems with this hook--up?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Philip
> > For all the reasons the others mentioned, you probably don't want to do
> > that.  A small inverter is one way, however I have heard but can't
> > verify that the typical computer power supply does not like modified
> > square wave inverters.  It is said that the circuitry in the power
> > supply that senses 120/220 is confused by a square wave and switches to
> > 220 mode for a brief instant which will cause premature failure.  I
> > can't verify the accuracy of those statements.
> >
> > If you believe that two solutions come to mind.
> >
> > 1) Buy a true sine wave inverter.
> > This is a fairly expensive proposition.  Also an unnecessary waste of
> > energy.  Why convert 12v DC to 120V AC and then to 18 V DC?  None of
> > these conversions are 100% efficient.
> >
> > The better choice is a DC/DC converter.  These folks look like they make
> > them for about any laptop on the market.
> > http://www.powerstream.com/
> >
> > I have a Targus for my Dell laptop and it works fine.
> >
> > There are lots of other universal laptop auto/12V adapters on the
> > market.  Let you fingers (and Google) do the walking.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
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