CT,

I bought some lengths of 00 size insulated copper wire.  I got mine at a scrap 
yard but you can get it at Home Depot, etc.

I cut pieces in pairs and twisted them into twisted pairs.  This reduces 
interference with the compass to large degree and some say it reduces RF 
radiation too.

My house battery is amidships.  I ran four twisted pairs:  from the battery to 
the bow, port and starboard, and from the battery to the stern, port and 
starboard.  From the battery they  ran port and starboard from the battery, up 
to the hull/deck join, thence to the  bow and to the stern.  I used tye-wrap 
ties and sticky pads to secure them on the hull.  

When I was done there was at the hull/deck join, throughout the boat, a heavy 
twisted pair with 12 VDC available.

The two twisted pairs that met at the bow both feed the electric windlass.  The 
windlass is never starved for juice, especially when things get tough and it 
needs power the most.  On that dark and stormy night when you can hear the seas 
smashing on the rocks behind you and you really really really want to get that 
anchor up you will bless yourself for those big, fat, wires.

All the other loads are fed by "off stickers".   To do this part you absolutely 
need a big honkin' soldering iron of at least 150 watts.  I got mine at an 
antique store years ago.  This type of soldering iron has a heavy copper tip 
about  a half inch in diameter and 1 1/2" long.  You need the heat in this big 
tip in order to get enough heat into the 00 buss wire to get its temperature up 
high enough for the solder's flux to work and for the solder to melt into the 
stranded copper and make a proper bond.  Be sure to remove, clean, and replace 
the tip periodically to insure good heat conduction.  Also keep the tip dressed 
and clean for the same reason.

Alternatively, I have seen good work done with non-electric soldering irons.  
The are big copper heads on a steel shaft and with a wooden handle that are 
heated by a flaming torch, such as a propane torch..  I prefer the electric 
type rather than having a roaring flame to deal with. 

BTW, I have soldered stainless with ordinary solder using my 150 watt iron, 
non-cored solder, and "Stay Kleen" flux.  Very handy if you want to solder a 
ground lug to stainless.

Any attempt to use a smaller iron will result in a half-assed job that is bound 
to fail.  It is essential to have a big iron to get enough heat into that 
massive copper buss line.  

Remember the engineers number one directive: "Do it right or do it over (and 
usually under less convenient conditions)."

Get some insulated copper stranded wire, about 6 or 8 gauge.  Cut off two 
pieces about 10 inches long.  Strip back about an inch off one end and 3/8" on 
the other.   Bend the one inch end at right angles and tin.  Tin is to saturate 
the strands with solder.  Be generous with the solder.  Attach ring terminals 
to the other end.  I like to solder after squeezing the terminals on.

Where you want the offstickers for the local load, with a sharp knife slice off 
some insulation from the big buss wires, just enough to be able to attach the 
offstickers.   Stagger the bare places so there can be no shorting.  When the 
copper is nicely exposed clean the copper well, including in between the 
exposed strands.  

The next step is to tin the exposed copper.  You don't have to tin all the 
strands through the cable, just the exposed ones.  But tin them well.  Use 
rosin core electrical solder.  Again, don't be stingy with the solder.  Then, 
while the wire is still hot, put the tinned leg of the offsticker against the 
tinned buss wire and apply the soldering iron.  This is where the generous 
tinning pays off because you don't have to add more solder.  Also keep in mind 
that the molten solder tends to move toward the heat.  So apply the heat to the 
top of the joint to encourage the solder to not fall the the joint.  This holds 
true when tinning too.  As soon as the solder melts and the offsticker suggles 
up against the big wire remove the heat.  If you wait too long you take a 
chance of all your precious solder might drip off.  It takes some practice to 
do it easily and correctly.

When the two joints are cool I sometimes tape the positive joint.  I don't know 
why.  There is little chance of some metal getting between the two.   I don't 
bother with the negative which is at ground anyway, but suit yourself.  I put a 
red tye-wrap (flea market) on the positive wire. 

If all is done properly this results in a well-made connection that will not 
fail.

There are two ways I terminate the offstickers.  The first is a heavy duty 
terminal block.  These are plastic strips with screw terminals on them.  You 
can buy them storebought or make them from some starboard and fasteners.   
Attach the offsticker to the block and then attach the loads to the block 
through in-line fuses to protect the feedlines.    

Another termination for light to medium loads is a nice black plastic terminal 
block I found at NAPA auto parts stores.  It has slots for eight blade-style 
automotive fuses, and a 1/4" spade lug for each load wire.  There is a stud for 
the positive wire to feed the fuses.  I add another similar stud (flathead 
machine screw) to terminate the negative lines.

The electrical industry has some nice large yellow metal  ring terminals that 
clamp on these big buss wires for their end terminals.  I also use Copper 
Shield, a lot like Never Seeze but for copper and copper alloys.  I put this 
glop on the wires and other hardware to help ward off corrosion.  Go back a few 
weeks later and tighten the clamps again.  The wires sometimes "settle in" from 
temperature changes and loosen up.

This approach to 12 VDC used on my boat has worked beyond my expectations.  I 
rarely have any problems and when I do, it is always some half-assed connection 
I should not have done and now must do over.  

Don't hesitate to email me if you have any further questions.


Norm
S/V Bandersnatch
Lying Julington Creek
30 07.695N 081 38.484W


----- Original Message ----- 
From: CT 
To: [email protected]
Sent: 7/22/2008 10:05:21 AM 
Subject: [Liveaboard] Electrical


Norm,
Your short description of electrical wiring intrigued me but I’m not sure I 
fully comprehend the setup. Can you amplify a little?
 
Thanks.
 
CT
30°24'43.07"N
88°34'1.90"W
 
 
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