Hi, Norm, and list,

While I am sure Skip's electrical arrangement suits him, on board Bandersnatch 
we have a different experience.

  I don't understand his statement "your solar and wind will have to be 
balanced to the size of the battery bank".  The job of the PV controller is to 
prevent overcharging of the battery bank.  When the batteries are charged and 
one has available even more electrical power it could be diverted to a 
watermaker.

  My concerns are not an excess, but a sufficiency. Shortly after our refit, we 
did a thorough energy budget (the results may have even appeared here in the 
prior iteration), starting by noting the draw from each and every device, 
moving on to the expected time of use, in at-anchor, under way, day and night 
modes, and then calculated how much it would take to support that load.

  I would say that when it comes to energy gathering the bigger the better.  
Our 1,300 watts of PV keeps up with our electrical requirements when we have 
sunny days while the solar charge controller prevents the batteries from being 
overcharged.  On cloudy days we let loose our two KISS wind generators and if 
there is significant wind they help keep the batteries from sagging too much.  
If we can't get enough wind or sun there is always the 8KW diesel genset.  

  Easy for you to say :{))  8KW goes a very long way, but still has the 
bulk/maintain/float charge issues for how long it may run. But you make my 
point for me.  I agree that bigger is better, and it was that to which I 
directed my balance comment.  If you can't reasonably charge your batteries 
with the available green sources, you're forced into some dinosaur 
remains-driven sources.  We only have one KISS (I'd initially thought we'd need 
two, but John at Hotwire talked me out of it), and, aside from my not thinking 
outside the box causing me to miss out on more watts than I have now, there 
wasn't anyplace else to put more than our current 370W of solar.  Even if I'd 
been thinking outside the box, likely we couldn't put up more than 500 on our 
current platform.  With an 880AH bank, we could run the KISS all the time even 
when charged, without a great deal of concern, as, unless it's blowing over 20, 
we'd only see about 15A max, under 2%.  I'm a bit foggy on my battery wizardry, 
but I THINK I recall that a bank can take that much pretty much ad infinitum.  
My solar controller would cut that part off, unless I was trying to do the soft 
equalizing mentioned before.

  That said, in the ECarib, likely our current (pardon the expression) setup 
would suffice, as the sun shines pretty reliably, and the wind blows even more 
so.  It was to that environment it was designed.

  None the less, one of our chief major projects we want to accomplish is a 
hard bimini, with the chief objective being the ability to install massively 
more solar. At that, I don't know that we'd approach the 1300 you have 
available to you.  The other major project is to address the POS arch I have 
(Thanks, Sanchez Brothers, Ruskin FL), either a major mod or entire 
replacement.  We might well go to a second KISS, or perhaps one of the more 
current models with higher outup/maybe quieter (but I certainly have no 
complaints after diligent balancing of our setup) at the same time.

  If we had 2,000 watts of PV perhaps we could air condition at least part of 
the boat like a sailboat we met in Norfolk on the northbound does.

  Having too much PV is like having too much sex or too much money.  I just 
don't understand the concept!

  Ditto that :{))  However, on all three counts, I can say from experience that 
not having nearly enough to suit your preferences/usage patterns really sux... 
The Honda allows relief from one of them :{))

  Norm
  S/V Bandersnatch
  Lying Gloucester MA

  L8R

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