Hi all, Thank you for all the advice and help on my engine issue. Just a quick note to say that I believe it to be resolved. We were towed in (we have TowBoat US full membership) primarily because a strong north wind and cold front was coming in and our anchorage was very unprotected from the North and I wasn't totally sure it was the raw water pump. Better to be safe than sorry as Ed noted.
As many of you pointed out my pump has a 1/4 gap with a slinger to prevent water entry into the oil pan so I was doubtful that that much sea water could have entered the crankcase with that built in safety gap. But I had raw water pump rebuild kit on board with the updated seals from the Westerbeke service bulletin and was able to rebuild the pump (a fairly simple task) only needing a vice to press the bearings. I've changed the oil several times and ran the engine under load tied to the dock for about an hour and the problem hasn't repeated itself. I will also make it routine to close the raw water seacock each night and keep the key on the seacock to help prevent such an issue. I'm 75% sure that it was the issue and not the wet exhaust because there was no hydraulic lock on the cylinders and we we're in following seas. After the cold front blows through we'll move along and hope no more issues crop up. Thanks again, Matt On Dec 5, 2010, at 11:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Send Liveaboard mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Liveaboard digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant amountofwater in > c... ([email protected]) > 2. Old friends, and new boats. (Jim Richardson) > 3. Re: Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant amountofwater in > crankcase (Lee Haefele) > 4. Re: Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant waterincrankcase > (Lee Haefele) > 5. Re: Bucky (Lee Huddleston) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 23:35:36 -0500 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant > amountofwater in c... > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > "that party" is on the List because I suggested it to him while having lunch > with and he and his wife a few days ago in Ocean Springs MS. I don't know > how much experience Matt has fixing machinery but he impressed me as being > quite intelligent and I believe that overhauling a seawater pump is a > relatively simple job well within his capability. > > > My location is in the signature of my messages. > > > Norm > S/V Bandersnatch > Lying Julington Creek FL > N30 07.68 W081 38.47 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: [email protected] > Sent: 12/3/2010 3:20:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant > amountofwater in c... > > > Norm, As I said "personally". > Do you know how much experience that party has had. > Carl. > > BTW are you down at Judington already? > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/attachments/20101204/f9c6c05a/attachment-0001.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 21:43:01 -0800 > From: Jim Richardson <[email protected]> > Subject: [Liveaboard] Old friends, and new boats. > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Kat and I have spent the last 9 years living about a 35' "Cruising" > Cal, Bill Lapworth's design for a comfortable long range (150 Gal of > diesel, 110 of water) cruiser. It's been a lot of fun, if we didn't > travel as widely as we'd have liked, we did enjoy what travel we > managed. But we have just made the transition to a large motorboat, a > 1955 Constellation, and find we have a lot of new lessons to learn. > Two diesels and a lot of storage among them! It's like living in a > smallish apartment. > > > Anyway, looking forward to lurking and learning new stuff, about our new path. > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/Weaselkeeper/Survey#5545967944856998930 > > > there's a lot of switches... > > -- > http://neon-buddha.net > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 05:05:39 -0500 > From: "Lee Haefele" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant > amountofwater in crankcase > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <9fdc7a104b2e4128b3eda24c9860c...@lee> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Until 2004, these had only 2 lip seals and the slinger was an O ring on the > shaft. If the pump started dry, it would overheat (It burned the paint off > my cover) and destroy the impellor and seal. Also, any seal leak causes the > bearings to fail as it quickly corrodes the cage that holds the balls in > place. Once the bearings go bad, there is a fast flow of water sprayed > parallel to the shaft that enters the oil system at the pump drive gear. A > very unreliable pump! After 2004 there is a different pump with a ceramic > seal. > Lee Haefele > "Also, I must add, because he might not know, the raw water pump has two > seals, one next to the pump chamber, usually a "mechanical seal" that has a > ceramic and a carbon surface rubbing together making the rotating seal, > then a gap or two in the pump housing (and sometimes a rubber "slinger" > disk to throw water off the shaft) so any water leakage will drain into the > bilge, then a rubber lip seal to keep lube oil inside the engine. I" > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 05:06:57 -0500 > From: "Lee Haefele" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant > waterincrankcase > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <623ae3db83144552b1ebb3e2a2309...@lee> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > There is already a 1" gap, but the pressured water gets across. > Lee > >> >> Further Thoughts. >> >> If your raw water pump is as Lee says you might want to consider drilling >> some drain holes in the body of the pump between the water and the oil >> seals to prevent water entering the engine. >> >> Sometimes designers have a brain fart. I often refer to it as "80% >> engineering". I suppose the suits are to blame, but products are often >> sent out into the world before they are fully developed. >> >> The raw water pump loose thumbscrews might be from vibration due to raw >> water pump failed bearings. >> >> >> >> Norm >> S/V Bandersnatch >> Lying Julington Creek FL >> N30 07.68 W081 38.47 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Liveaboard mailing list >> [email protected] >> To adjust your membership settings over the web >> http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard >> To subscribe send an email to [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ >> >> To search the archives >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> The Mailman Users Guide can be found here >> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3293 - Release Date: 12/02/10 > 12:18:00 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 07:58:19 -0600 > From: "Lee Huddleston" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Bucky > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <000e01cb9484$905032c0$b0f098...@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Very sorry for your loss. Especially sad that Bucky died even though > wearing a life jacket. > > Lee Huddleston > s/v Truelove > on the hard at Bock Marine, Beaufort NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Rogers > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Liveaboard] Bucky > > Ron > > Just received a call from an NC Fisheries Ranger -?Bucky's remains > were found on Roanoke Island today. Please thank everyone for their > sympathy and help. > > Jane & Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Liveaboard mailing list > [email protected] > To adjust your membership settings over the web > http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > To subscribe send an email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ > > To search the archives > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > The Mailman Users Guide can be found here > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Liveaboard mailing list > [email protected] > http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > > > End of Liveaboard Digest, Vol 39, Issue 6 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Liveaboard mailing list [email protected] To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
