Hi

OK further to my last reply to this thread.  The brltty issue isn't an issue 
when evoked from the boot prompt..  I read the link you provided and saw that I 
was getting the command wrong.

I've got speakup working, brltty enabled me to learn how far speakup was from 
working and it's speechd-up that isn't being loaded from my script.  The alsa 
messages are going on to one console but there are other consoles that are 
useable.

I'd like speakup to run before the locale dialogs, is this possible?

Gena

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander E. 
Patrakov
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Development of LFS LiveCD
Subject: Re: Accessibility issues brltty and software espeak 
viaspeech-dispatcher and alsa


Georgina Joyce wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm making some progress with my accessible livecd by remastering the 2032 
> image.  However, I wondered if someone could advise on the following:
>
> Brltty and gpm have issues in running together, so I guess it would be 
> easiest for me to remove the "S" links in the rc?.d directories?
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00457.html
>   

Sorry, "have issues" is not a very precise description. You have to 
include the exact testcase reproducible with the "xw" driver that 
displays a window with a picture of a braille device on a remote X 
display. I.e., I will run qemu, and boot with the following arguments 
(the 10.0.2.2:1 display doesn't require authentication):

linux DISPLAY=10.0.2.2:1 brltty=xw,10.0.2.2:1

> Also on the issue of brltty, what were the install options used?  I see the 
> binary in /usr/bin whereas, by default, they are in /bin.  So I assume that 
> the typical ./configure --prefix=/usr was used?  What version is it installed?
>   

version 3.8, compiled with ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc 
--disable-speech-support --disable-api (as recommended by another blind 
user)
> I've got speakup working with hardware synths.  Which leaves 
> speech-dispatcher and espeak which also works.  However, I have a problem 
> alsa activity is being printed out to STDOUT.  How do I redirect the messages 
> generated by alsa from being directed to STDOUT on a livecd?
>   

Please be more specific, e.g. include a sample message of ALSA activity.

>  The opening dialogs concerning language and time zone etc are very difficult 
> to use via brltty or speakup.  I'm not sure what to do about this.  It would 
> be a shame to disable them and restrict the user to a predefined char set and 
> time zone etc.  But the tab order does not seem to include the listing i.e. 
> by pressing tab, it alternates to OK and Cancel.  How would I disable these 
> dialogs and how would I set predefined defaults?
>   

Boot as "linux LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 TZ=Europe/Paris UTC=1". This is 
documented on the boot loader help screens. Unfortunately, they cannot 
be made accessible to blind users, so here is the URL where you can read 
them:

http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/livecd/browser/trunk/isolinux

What should I do in order to make this documentation "visible" enough 
for blind users? E.g., suggest a wording about this for the release 
announcement, web page, etc.

As for inaccessible dialogs, can this be fixed by adding something to 
/etc/dialogrc? Currently, if a user requests brltty, the 
"visit_items=ON" line is added. You may want to add this line if the 
user requests speakup, too. Alternatively, it may be better to skip the 
dialogs at all if the user requested brltty, and point to documentation 
about the boot arguments.

And BTW, I cannot reproduce the dialog accessibility issue using brltty. 
When I press Tab, it changes the virtual braille display between 
"Europe/Paris", "OK" and "Cancel", contrary to what you say. The 
"visit_items=ON" option is there.

Also, please share your feedback on the accessibility of mutt, lynx and 
tin on the CD with brltty.

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