> > I agree with bill. I dont see why this would be a problem. Java 32 bit and > 64bit can be installed along side each other, so why cant lmms?
I think we're getting a bit off topic, but I'll bite. They can run side-by-side and do well, but Java probably isn't the best example to use. Java uses Major versioning for it's runtime and Minor versioning for it's JDK,, at least on Windows. This is a security nightmare because now you have TWO java run-times to patch with security updates. Java also has taken special consideration of what to do when two different versions are running on Windows and is configurable via a dedicated control panel. [image: Inline image 1] [image: Inline image 2] But people generally don't install 32-bit and 64-bit version of Java for isolation purposes, nor for evaluation purposes. Instead, necessity drives this debocle since the 32-bit Chome web browser and the 32-bit Firefox browser are incompatible with 64-bit Java. You could relate this to the 32 vs. 64 bit VST conversation, but here, LMMS succeeds where Chrome/Firefox fail. On a similar note: Chrome cannot run Java on Mac at all (Oracle doesn't even provide a 32-bit build for OSX) but in the *nix world this disastrous mix of 32 vs. 64 is not as common place. Usually the *nix developers support the native architecture. :) Yes, if someone wants to sandbox two builds from each-other on Windows, they can certainly use 32-bit versus 64-bit, but it's not a true sandbox and I think it is tremendously confusing! :) -Tres - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Jonathan Aquilina <eagles051...@gmail.com>wrote: > I agree with bill. I dont see why this would be a problem. Java 32 bit and > 64bit can be installed along side each other, so why cant lmms? > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Bill Y. <b...@anzovin.com> wrote: > >> Not true, the 64 bit version installs to Program Files, and the 32 bit >> version installs to Program Files (x86) on windows systems. So it is >> entirely plausible to have a 32 bit version of 0.4.15 and also a 64 bit >> version of 0.9.91. With that said if LMMS shares certain resources that >> prevent a person from having both installed, then we need to address this >> problem. While it might not be necessary, is bad etiquette for 32 bit and >> 64 bit resources cause conflicts with each other. >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Tres Finocchiaro < >> tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Also what if the user wanted to have 0.4.x and a new version because >>>> some features that use to exist or changed in such a way that an old file >>>> breaks under the new version? >>> >>> >>> This assumes it installs in a separate location, which by default it >>> does not. >>> >>> is it possible to have the installer detect if there is an lmms install >>>> and auto uninstall lmms if its not running >>> >>> >>> I don't see much benefit in this because the uninstaller doesn't >>> properly remove the registry keys or the .lmmsrc file. >>> >>> I think a better question is if we can fix the uninstaller to properly >>> remove the application so that there aren't as many artifacts laying >>> around. This is a common problem with software installs though because >>> generally people don't want files in their home drive mucked with, so in >>> addition to cleaning up the registry, I think the application should have a >>> way of "upgrading" the .lmmsrc file so that the new 1.0.0 version and it's >>> theme get displayed properly. >>> >>> -Tres >>> >>> >>> - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:48 AM, John Serafino <lzrbl...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> I have seen a lot of software installers have a little "uninstall >>>> previous versions" checkbox to help solve this problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bill Y. <b...@anzovin.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What if a user wanted both the 32 bit and 64 bit versions? Also what >>>>> if the user wanted to have 0.4.x and a new version because some features >>>>> that use to exist or changed in such a way that an old file breaks under >>>>> the new version? I feel auto uninstall is only a viable option if there is >>>>> an advance option to alow users to bypass it at their own discretion. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Jonathan Aquilina < >>>>> eagles051...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> @toby at least on windows is it possible to have the installer detect >>>>>> if there is an lmms install and auto uninstall lmms if its not running, >>>>>> and >>>>>> if its running ask the user to close it? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Tobias Doerffel < >>>>>> tobias.doerf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2014-02-21 0:47 GMT+01:00 Stian Jørgensrud <stian...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> > When the two previous LMMS RC versions asked to make a Start menu >>>>>>> shortcut >>>>>>> > they didn't call themselves 0.9.X but asked to make 0.4.14 or >>>>>>> 0.4.15 on my >>>>>>> > two Win7. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Before installing a new version, you should uninstall LMMS >>>>>>> completely. >>>>>>> I also recommend a CCleaner run after uninstall in order to get rid >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> old registry keys such as file association (not sure whether >>>>>>> everything gets removed upon uninstall). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Toby >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications >>>>>>> Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common >>>>>>> Pitfalls. >>>>>>> Read the Whitepaper. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> LMMS-devel mailing list >>>>>>> LMMS-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Jonathan Aquilina >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. 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All-in-one tool. >>> >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=126839071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>> _______________________________________________ >>> LMMS-devel mailing list >>> LMMS-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. Cisco certified tool. >> Monitor traffic, SLAs, QoS, Medianet, WAAS etc. with NetFlow Analyzer >> Customize your own dashboards, set traffic alerts and generate reports. >> Network behavioral analysis & security monitoring. All-in-one tool. >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=126839071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> LMMS-devel mailing list >> LMMS-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel >> >> > > > -- > Jonathan Aquilina >
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