Unfa,

I agree with all points.  This is a good place to keep this conversation
going.  The only issue with what you are describing it is takes the already
delayed LSP project and adds more items to it.

In terms of uploading rendered versions, I would really like to see down
the road a server-side rendering of presets.  (like a nightly task that
imports the preset files into a blank project and renders them against a
basic melody).   I wouldn't want people to have to upload the WAVs, that's
just tedious and no one will do it.

The rest is feasible, although subscription based content can get tricky.
 I'm inclined to recommend the LSP offer shared login services such as
OpenID, Google, Facebook.  This his how the porting team website
operates<http://i.imgur.com/9E7FkXr.png> and
is a growing trend.

Please keep this discussion flowing because you are spot on in terms of
engineering this out to accommodate the social element, which I believe to
be the primary source of energy behind our user community.

- tres.finocchi...@gmail.com


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Tobiasz Karoń <unf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I started this message as a reply in another thread, but it has grown too
> big, so I decided to start another thread.
>
> If all this have already been discussed somewhere else - please point me
> there.
>
> * * *
>
> I am wondering if we have a mutual vision of how the new LSP is going to
> work?
>
> For example I'd love to get something more like soundcloud where you can
> subscribe to users, repost their tracks and have a stream of tracks from
> whoever you have subscribed to. Also getting notifications about new
> comments or reposts or subscribtions etc.
>
> Manual looking for activity is a tedious task in old LSP, notifications
> and social relations could bring this thing a new life.
>
> Also private messages could be of much use.
>
> How about getting more social and lively? And make it more game-like (how
> high can you score?).
> This is what Facebook's "likes" are - a simple game for status, for a
> place in the hall of fame.
>
> Also user avatars, descriptions and track images could be neat.
>
> Oh, and the rigid categories for music styles seem like a poor concept -
> the list will never be 100% complete for everyone. I missed a few ganres a
> lot there myself. I think tags with a function to suggest related would be
> much more flexible and fun.
>
> It would also allow for "subscribe for a tag" - whenever someone posts a
> track with "funky-dubstep" tag, I get that in my feed. Could be great for
> discovering artists.
>
> Random track of the day might be an option (Freesound style).
>
> Also if we could provide some native audio previews/html5 Ogg
> playback/cool waveform player, we could gather some users not running lmms,
> and even some mobile users...
>
> However, the artists would need to upload their renders of the tracks. I
> guess the main problem here would be the amount of data to transfer,
> process and store.
>
> Is it worth it? What is the goal of LSP after all? To serve and build the
> community of LMMS artists? I guess so. Maybe some stuff is not needed, as
> long as LSP is not a "all around sound hosting service" but a place where
> LMMS artists meet and cooperate, not focusing on the "outside world".
>
> What say thou?
>
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