Yeah I thought it would be unnecessary because of the other sites and projects that already offer free audio tracks (not soundcloud, that site doesn't have a free2use search system, I was thinking about something more like this: https://www.youtube.com/audiolibrary/music)

About blender, well, it's not that youtubers need a 3D pic as a background for their videos, they need music xD Anyway, it was just something I wanted to discuss about. If it's not needed, we won't have an audio library.

Some audio-software companies do offer loops, tho (like Imageline, Magix, Sony's AcidPro, Ableton) What about having them ourselves? Also because LMMS is going to have better Audio Samples support. But maybe this kind of things is up to individual users: if any LMMS user wants to, they create a loop library and find a place to host those themselves.


Il 29/12/2014 20:59, Tres Finocchiaro ha scritto:

    > It's more like a place with free2use music, with tracks you can use for 
personal and public
    projects, for example as a background track for a movie or a
    gameplay on youtube.


Oh... Isn't that what most people use soundcloud for? The only problem with us offering that service is we would be essentially turning ourselves into soundcloud and all of the management that such a service brings.

I do agree that there needs to be more resources available on this topic, but I think what you are describing is already being done well by many services, and from my experience, when someone is looking for music that is free to use, they don't really care what software was made to use it (right?)

I don't mean to play devils advocate here... but after after converting the Sharing Platform (LSP) to run on the new domain <https://github.com/LMMS/lmms.io/pull/66> I can speak frankly about the effort involved to code and maintain a service like you are describing.

But maybe I'm over-thinking this... how does Blender do this? Do they have a "Blender free2use" section? How is it maintained? How do we prevent blatant self-promotion?

-Tres

- tres.finocchi...@gmail.com <mailto:tres.finocchi...@gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:27 PM, DeRobyJ <dero...@gmail.com <mailto:dero...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Sorry but I don't think I was talking about stems.
    It's more like a place with free2use music, with tracks you can
    use for personal and public projects, for example as a background
    track for a movie or a gameplay on youtube.

    If I understand correctly, stem mixing is something a musician
    would do, while I wrote about giving ready-to-use tracks for any
    kind of project.
    Maybe the part about my videos was misleading: I don't only do
    videos about music, I used that Christmas tracks for a commentary
    gameplay video.

    Anyway that stem mixing is interesting too, and we could also
    consider making free/paid "/loop packs/"//to get the money for the
    "paid developer" idea and for the lmms.io <http://lmms.io> domain
    (or just to spread the word of LMMS).


    Il 29/12/2014 15:00, Tres Finocchiaro ha scritto:
    Are you referring to "stem mixing
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_mixing_and_mastering>"?

A good collection of stems would be nice to offer to the users. We could offer them on our site for download (we have an area
    dedicated to downloads already), but we'd need someone to manage
    them as the stems often become dated.

    From my experience, stems usually accompany a promotional
    competition and tend to be most popular around the release of a
    track.  Also, good stems usually are released by the musicians
    themselves and tend to carry a non-CC0 license (attribution is
    usually required and most competitions in some way prohibit
    certain use of their material).

    Also, remixes are a small portion of what our users aim to
    achieve when using the software, so if we decide to offer stems
    as downloads, we may better spend our time actually creating the
    sample pack download add-on that was pretty much abandoned, and
    include an area for these types of longer stem mixing tracks.

    Lastly, we need to be mindful of how awful our sample-track
    implementation is currently. Until that's redone with the 2.0
    release (or onward) we should exercise a bit of hesitation before
    encouraging track-based mixing with... well.. the
    AudioFileProcessor :)

    -Tres

    - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com <mailto:tres.finocchi...@gmail.com>

    On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 12:56 PM, DeRobyJ <dero...@gmail.com
    <mailto:dero...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Lately I've been using music made with LMMS that has won the last
        competitions for my videos, and I know that a lot of
        Youtubers have
        their free music libraries to take tracks from, since they
        must use free
        music to get money.

        What about making a LMMS free music Library?
        Why:
        - Youtubers (and also other people who need any audio track
        for any of
        their projects, even DJs) can take those and get to know
        about LMMS
        - LMMS users can be inspired: a music library is normally
        divided into
        genres or moods or when-to-put-it (music as a background for
        videogames/fights/science-fiction etc), so a musician may try
        to enter
        all of the categories!
        - Reference inside other projects: I think that a lot of
        youtubers who
        uses LMMS music may want to tell his subscribers about it


        I know we have the Sharing Platform, but that is for other
        lmms users,
        as we upload project files and presets, while this is about
        uploading
        the ogg/wav render directly, and maybe be contacted for loop-able
        version or extended mix or remove-that-sound requests.

        What do you think? Youtube already has gathered a lot of free
        music in
        its library, but they don't sound very good imo, while LMMS
        musicians
        often put their best tracks free for download, so why not
        gathering them?


        ~DeRobyJ

        
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